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rentaghost said:
Absolutely he is. We have some right spiteful twats with short memories on here mind . Collingwood is an absolute all time Durham great. He is at the very top of the highest tree. In 80 years time Collingwood will be remembered the way Buchan and Raich Carter are for SAFC although I dare say if we had the internet back then there would have been some knackers slagging them off when they retired.

He deserves a lot more than a free pass for the poor performances of a 42 year old, who in fairness would be nowhere near the team if we hadn't been for the scandalous ECB. Shame on you and shame on many others. ​
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You are making out that Colly has no part in the decision making at the club which is nonsense. No way does Lewis call all the shots Colly will have plenty of power over the first team. The fact that he is 42 and has been a great servent to the club does not mean he has to take no responsibility for Durham's results in the championship. Today was one of the biggest embarrassing days in the club's history on Lewis watch and Collys
 


wayne entwhistle no9 said:
You are making out that Colly has no part in the decision making at the club which is nonsense. No way does Lewis call all the shots Colly will have plenty of power over the first team. The fact that he is 42 and has been a great servent to the club does not mean he has to take no responsibility for Durham's results in the championship. Today was one of the biggest embarrassing days in the club's history on Lewis watch and Collys
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Agree. Everyone has to take blame, some more than others. Lewis & Colly are the two main decision makers therefore justifiably deserve to be criticised. If we were top they would happily take the praise
 
rentaghost said:
Absolutely he is. We have some right spiteful twats with short memories on here mind . Collingwood is an absolute all time Durham great. He is at the very top of the highest tree. In 80 years time Collingwood will be remembered the way Buchan and Raich Carter are for SAFC although I dare say if we had the internet back then there would have been some knackers slagging them off when they retired.

He deserves a lot more than a free pass for the poor performances of a 42 year old, who in fairness would be nowhere near the team if we hadn't been for the scandalous ECB. Shame on you and shame on many others. ​
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Any idea what Colly is/was on as a 42 year old? He is a legend at Durham. He was bloody good for England too. But he has no doubt been on a decent wedge without performing on the pitch. Durham would have been better off giving younger players than him an opportunity.
Being a great doesn't justify taking money from the club when you're past it. Ridiculous to say he gets off scot free.
 
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rentaghost said:
Absolutely he is. We have some right spiteful twats with short memories on here mind . Collingwood is an absolute all time Durham great. He is at the very top of the highest tree. In 80 years time Collingwood will be remembered the way Buchan and Raich Carter are for SAFC although I dare say if we had the internet back then there would have been some knackers slagging them off when they retired.

He deserves a lot more than a free pass for the poor performances of a 42 year old, who in fairness would be nowhere near the team if we hadn't been for the scandalous ECB. Shame on you and shame on many others. ​
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Couldn’t of put it better myself. It’s respect he deserves not people slagging him off. Same people who were begging for him to have another season this time last year are now saying he’s shite. Give your heads a shake. He’s 42 years old not 32.
 
Former Player said:
Couldn’t of put it better myself. It’s respect he deserves not people slagging him off. Same people who were begging for him to have another season this time last year are now saying he’s shite. Give your heads a shake. He’s 42 years old not 32.
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So did he take a pay cut because he's 42 not 32?
No-one disputes how good he's been. But he has to take some responsibility. Cloughie took responsibility for Forest being relegated in his last season. England sacked their World Cup winning manager. There is no such thing as a free ride.
Today was shameful. A once in a century performance.
This morning 67 all out was their lowest score, its now their third lowest.
 
Former Player said:
Couldn’t of put it better myself. It’s respect he deserves not people slagging him off. Same people who were begging for him to have another season this time last year are now saying he’s shite. Give your heads a shake. He’s 42 years old not 32.
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He's still on the payroll and is a major decision maker at the club. We all respect him for his service to Durham bit nobody in my eyes is untouchable and in my opinion he deserves criticism for this season. No free rides for me, this season has been an absolute embarrassment
 
toosb said:
So did he take a pay cut because he's 42 not 32?
No-one disputes how good he's been. But he has to take some responsibility. Cloughie took responsibility for Forest being relegated in his last season. England sacked their World Cup winning manager. There is no such thing as a free ride.
Today was shameful. A once in a century performance.
This morning 67 all out was their lowest score, its now their third lowest.
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I've no idea, he may well have. I do know he stayed because the club desperately wanted him to and because they felt his experience was needed to help them through incredibly difficult times.Last season at 41 he was fantastic scoring over 1000 runs at an average of 50. Now a year later after a poor season he's a leech for taking money out of the club at 42. Utter bollocks.
 
rentaghost said:
I've no idea, he may well have. I do know he stayed because the club desperately wanted him to and because they felt his experience was needed to help them through incredibly difficult times.Last season at 41 he was fantastic scoring over 1000 runs at an average of 50. Now a year later after a poor season he's a leech for taking money out of the club at 42. Utter bollocks.
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I think you are missing the point the criticism is of his part in the leadership of the club not the amount of runs he has scored. Performances like today can't be down to just Lewis, it's not as if Colly is a callow 23 year old captain bring puppy walked by the coach through his first season. As you keep telling us he is 42 and a north east sporting legend.
 
Bri said:
Aye. It's like why is he playing this year when last year was so pitiful. :rolleyes:
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Aye, just the 1087 runs last season ;)

toosb said:
Any idea what Colly is/was on as a 42 year old? He is a legend at Durham. He was bloody good for England too. But he has no doubt been on a decent wedge without performing on the pitch. Durham would have been better off giving younger players than him an opportunity.
Being a great doesn't justify taking money from the club when you're past it. Ridiculous to say he gets off scot free.
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One bad season ffs, I’m prepared to give him a free pass based on the fact he averaged just under 50 last season at 41 year old and has been the single greatest ambassador for Durham County Cricket Club.

toosb said:
So did he take a pay cut because he's 42 not 32?
No-one disputes how good he's been. But he has to take some responsibility. Cloughie took responsibility for Forest being relegated in his last season. England sacked their World Cup winning manager. There is no such thing as a free ride.
Today was shameful. A once in a century performance.
This morning 67 all out was their lowest score, its now their third lowest.
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You’re making a lot of very wild assumptions here mind. For all we know, the club may have given him some kind of ultimatum which has prompted his retirement. It may well be that the club and Colly have decided to dress it up as a retirement, when in reality he’s been told he won’t be offered a deal for 2019.

GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Not at all. Just find it poor he seems to be getting singled out. I've already said I would drop every batsman for next week.
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He’s not being singled out, most of the batsmen have come in for criticism today - the fact is though, Richardson has had far more chances and far more failures than the others around him.

It wouldn’t be right to keep him, but drop/offload Clark, Poynter, Harte, etc.

rentaghost said:
I've no idea, he may well have. I do know he stayed because the club desperately wanted him to and because they felt his experience was needed to help them through incredibly difficult times.Last season at 41 he was fantastic scoring over 1000 runs at an average of 50. Now a year later after a poor season he's a leech for taking money out of the club at 42. Utter bollocks.
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Fantastic post.

toosb said:
It's obvious to see why Colly played on. He's still skint after this.

Former cricketer Paul Collingwood's investment dreams end in ashes

No wonder he invested in a tax avoidance scheme a few years back.

Sky might help him out.
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Seriously mate, has Colly shagged your missus or summit? Lot of vitriol directed his way by you tonight mind.

toosb said:
That's fake news. What about the 48 points the ECB took off them last season. So in performances, they've gone backwards.
The one day Cup efforts were pathetic.
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WHED said the table doesn’t lie. Indeed it doesn’t. We’re higher than we were last season at the same point.

wayne entwhistle no9 said:
I think you are missing the point the criticism is of his part in the leadership of the club not the amount of runs he has scored. Performances like today can't be down to just Lewis, it's not as if Colly is a callow 23 year old captain bring puppy walked by the coach through his first season. As you keep telling us he is 42 and a north east sporting legend.
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So you want to question Paul Collingwood’s leadership do you??

Right, well aside from all the trophies and honours he’s won, for Durham. What about when we were staring relegation down the barrel in (iirc) 2011? He came back to take over the captaincy and fortunes immediately improved. We staged a Great Escape that the lads would’ve been proud of.

Then, how about this past few years, when the likes of Stoneman, Bothwick, Hart, Coughlin, Jennings et al have jumped off the sinking ship? It would’ve been so easy to walk away, head high after an illustrious career. Instead, he hung around determined to keep the club afloat.

f***ing hell man, some people on here have some short memories.

But aye, what have the Romans ACTUALLY ever done for us :rolleyes:.

f***ing morons.

Is all of what he’s done not the absolute definition of fine leadership?
 
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Brandon, Colly has had loads of praise in the past and quite rightly so. What we are talking about is the leadership' of the club this season and some of the strange decisions that have been made and why the 1st team at times are performing do badly. Colly is the captain even in modern times with coaches and computers and energy drinks it is still his team. They have looked rudderless at times this season. My argument is that it can't all be the coaches fault.
 
Colly has been a terrific servant and ambassador for DCCC there is no argument about that
He has never feigned or played upon any injury or taken any wages or payment without giving the very maximum of his physical abilities
He was great last year but perhaps Father Time has caught up with him this year and try as he might this year has been a hard struggle for him
However the truth is that overall the team has not improved one iota in the championship because Brandon might point out this year we are eigth as opposed to ninth but last year we had a 48point deduction so this year everybody would expect us to move higher than one league place
A large overhaul and clear out in the batting department is required and if improvement requires coaching changes so be it .
As with this current set up we will continue to be scratting around the lower regions of division 2 for many many years to come and our peers will be the likes of Glamorgan and Northants with basement battles every year for Time immemorial
 
Monument View said:
Colly has been a terrific servant and ambassador for DCCC there is no argument about that
He has never feigned or played upon any injury or taken any wages or payment without giving the very maximum of his physical abilities
He was great last year but perhaps Father Time has caught up with him this year and try as he might this year has been a hard struggle for him
However the truth is that overall the team has not improved one iota in the championship because Brandon might point out this year we are eigth as opposed to ninth but last year we had a 48point deduction so this year everybody would expect us to move higher than one league place
A large overhaul and clear out in the batting department is required and if improvement requires coaching changes so be it .
As with this current set up we will continue to be scratting around the lower regions of division 2 for many many years to come and our peers will be the likes of Glamorgan and Northants with basement battles every year for Time immemorial
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Spot on. Lewis has to go though, he's a big part of the problem.
 
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