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This weekend's local cricket

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robkitchuk said:
Good news hope it's onwards and upwards from here. Heard Burnmoor have folded their junior set up.
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Sure our 11s played them yesterday and our 13s were scheduled last wednesday before the rain. As a PL club, sure they are required to field a certain number of junior sides. If this don't, this will impact on them getting a side out in the Sunday league where a certain amount of players (I forget how many) must be under 18
 
Awful to see clubs struggle

The HLSCL dispensation rule not great in encouraging clubs to run team should be based on individuals and not across the board rule
 
The Voice Of Reason said:
Awful to see clubs struggle

The HLSCL dispensation rule not great in encouraging clubs to run team should be based on individuals and not across the board rule
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I didn't know of that rule. Back in 2012 at Belmont when the club had enough players to put out 3 weekend teams, we flirted with idea of applying to the HLSCL. Would have had no chance. It's hard enough picking a team without age restrictions. Excellent idea but it must be a nightmare for some clubs in this day and age.
 
Ageing trundler said:
I didn't know of that rule. Back in 2012 at Belmont when the club had enough players to put out 3 weekend teams, we flirted with idea of applying to the HLSCL. Would have had no chance. It's hard enough picking a team without age restrictions. Excellent idea but it must be a nightmare for some clubs in this day and age.
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It's a rule regarding playing 4 first team games where regardless of contrition you then can't play on a Sunday

We have lads helping out who bat 10 or 11 and don't bowl but are disqualified

Total nonsense
 
The Voice Of Reason said:
It's a rule regarding playing 4 first team games where regardless of contrition you then can't play on a Sunday

We have lads helping out who bat 10 or 11 and don't bowl but are disqualified

Total nonsense
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And they wonder why lads stop playing. Leagues need to have a think and decide whether they love the game more than their own daft rules. If it's the latter, then they can't complain when clubs go under. Personally, and I'm off on a tangent here but, I take great pleasure in captaining lads who obviously love playing, are limited at best, but turn up every week. You've got to keep the thing going or we'll see teams folding in large numbers. Until The Hundred saves us all of course.
 
Somethings not right if one of the North Easts most successful sides in the last 20 years can't field an under 15's or 18's

There are 3 teams in the DCL with no junior set up at all. How on earth with they survive in 5 / 6 years time as lads retire /move elsewhere. At least the NEPL is forcing teams to try and develop juniors instead of it being oppotional

Unfortunately a sign of the times and big problems ahead for us all
 
minty said:
Somethings not right if one of the North Easts most successful sides in the last 20 years can't field an under 15's or 18's

There are 3 teams in the DCL with no junior set up at all. How on earth with they survive in 5 / 6 years time as lads retire /move elsewhere. At least the NEPL is forcing teams to try and develop juniors instead of it being oppotional

Unfortunately a sign of the times and big problems ahead for us all
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In the circumstances with clubs clearly struggling,the NEPL should be more flexible and understanding and should not be forcing clubs to do anything.

Of course clubs want to try and develop juniors, by forcing them to do so, will not magically mean that kids now become interested in cricket.

Clubs in trouble need to be the supported not told what they have to do.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
In the circumstances with clubs clearly struggling,the NEPL should be more flexible and understanding and should not be forcing clubs to do anything.

Of course clubs want to try and develop juniors, by forcing them to do so, will not magically mean that kids now become interested in cricket.

Clubs in trouble need to be the supported not told what they have to do.
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It was part of the conditions of joining the league. The NEPL will support clubs through sticky patches but don' want clubs to try. It's ironic that a team can pay 5/6 players to play on a Saturday but struggle to keep older juniors in the game.

Developing junior sides is a massive resource both time and money and for me the NEPL are making it mandtory so clubs do the right thing for the long term before they spend 10k on an overseas player for example

This isn't a dig at Burnmoor by the way as I know how hard they are working with the juniors and have a canny little set up. A lot of clubs in the same boat at the moment but the answer isn't to allow clubs not to invest in juniors in my opinion
 
minty said:
Somethings not right if one of the North Easts most successful sides in the last 20 years can't field an under 15's or 18's

There are 3 teams in the DCL with no junior set up at all. How on earth with they survive in 5 / 6 years time as lads retire /move elsewhere. At least the NEPL is forcing teams to try and develop juniors instead of it being oppotional

Unfortunately a sign of the times and big problems ahead for us all
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Burnmoor are my local club, although not one that Im involved with in any way, and I watch quite a bit midweek cricket there

Obviously they are successful but financially they are a richer club with the bar doing well (incl functions) and meals popular, especially on a Sunday

In terms of a catchment area for kids, they’re a small village surrounded by big clubs who recruit well - chester to the west, washy to the north, philli 5 mins away and Hetton Lyons not that much further. The village school has about 120 on roll so theres not a hige amount of boys and girls queing up.

I played a social game recently there and noticed their All Stars numbers were decent 20+ so hopefully things will improve. I can’t help thinking that if they chuck money at the problem - like they do with senior team - with some quality coaching and better outreach to local schools, the problem will quickly be solved
 
A common problem over the years is that clubs place too much emphasis on winning, let's face it, fairly meaningless 2nd and 3rd team games. I mean, really, who gives a monkeys if the 2nds win their league ahead of developing kids. 3 of us were sitting together, having a sly chuckle as our opening 2nd team game was slipping away due to me giving the kids and lads with little ability a proper go v a team who were absolutely hopeless (apologies if anyone from Aldbrough St John 2nds are on here BTW), thinking we would have never done this a few years ago. The opposition persisted in bowling their better bowlers, even when we wanted 60-odd to win, 8 down. Since then we have fielded full 2nd XIs. Our opponents of that day have conceded 2 games and could fold. Just an example.
 
minty said:
It was part of the conditions of joining the league. The NEPL will support clubs through sticky patches but don' want clubs to try. It's ironic that a team can pay 5/6 players to play on a Saturday but struggle to keep older juniors in the game.

Developing junior sides is a massive resource both time and money and for me the NEPL are making it mandtory so clubs do the right thing for the long term before they spend 10k on an overseas player for example

This isn't a dig at Burnmoor by the way as I know how hard they are working with the juniors and have a canny little set up. A lot of clubs in the same boat at the moment but the answer isn't to allow clubs not to invest in juniors in my opinion
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Once again mate forcing them to do so will not solve the bigger picture and bigger issue, in fact it will just put more pressure on clubs which is the last thing they need in the present climate.

The overseas player argument doesn't link as it's not about the money, it's about kids in this present era with all other attractions actually been interested in cricket.
 
The Voice Of Reason said:
Sad to see but you can't force kids to play

Cricket is not promoted enough in schools is not on terrestrial tv enough

Most kids get into cricket because their dads like it or they live near a ground

Sadly sign of the times with other things to do. It's difficult for clubs to engage young people
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Very true but dont forget local football having summer leagues as well is making kids choose between the sports which is imo not on.

When i was a kid it was always footy in the winter and then cricket for the summer - now kids are potentially playing footy all year round.
 
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