People were wrong about Short ...

[shepherd88]

Just another wum marra, but one who knew how to get others firing bullets for him.

Didn't mind him apart from his constant tagging of rivs.

My previous comment was a nod to mbh when he left the board following Murray leaving

 

[Jimmer13]

Calm down man ya Welly Top.

Quite calm after my operation early today thanks. Rarely get stressed anyhow..... thought I was quite ironic in my reply which consisted of more than 3 letters. Can cut it down further and still be polite: Divvy

 

[two left feet]

True ... but they're not the ones I'm talking about

I suppose the point I’m making is that it’s not worth wasting your energy on an extremely small vocal minority which also contains a number of WUMs, when the overwhelming majority are positive.

 

[luvulongtime]

he's just an owner whose intentions were good, history will show he's been misunderstood

 

[dom]

He made a huge mess and it was only right he tried to fix. He did and fair play to him. He's gone now and we should all just move on.

Put us in Division 3!

 

[Sid]

he's just an owner whose intentions were good, history will show he's been misunderstood

Tune

 

[luvulongtime]

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[Sid]

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It's a beauty

 

[Born Never Asked]

he's just an owner whose intentions were good, history will show he's been misunderstood

Though Tom Cowie has never been given the benefit of revisionist history. Kept the club in First Division for 6 years. League Cup final. Hired McMenemy on massive salary and allowed massive expenditure on wages for the likes of Gates Kennedy.

 

[bigmarlon]

Put us in Division 3!

I think the players did that tbf.

 

[dom]

I think the players did that tbf.

The man in charge takes the blame.
Never more than this case!

 

[Fetch Fletch]

I think the players did that tbf.

In that case we stayed in the premier league for so long because of the players.

 

[dom]

In that case we stayed in the premier league for so long because of the players.

They want it both ways!
For me, if you don’t know anything about a business, keep the f**k out!

 

[Goat Hoof]

Is it an anonymous donation if you go around telling your mates/employees all about it? “I do a lot for charidee, but i don’t like to talk about it”

Of course its anonymous, you dont know who it was do you?[/QUOTE]

you do, therefore not anonymous

 

[jonny gently]

They want it both ways!
For me, if you don’t know anything about a business, keep the f**k out!

Short is certainly culpable, but there's a long list.

 

[dom]

Short is certainly culpable, but there's a long list.

Yeah, he’s not solely to blame and I think his intentions were good to start with.
Confronting Keane was his first mistake.
He lost me then!

 

[Mainze]

Quite calm after my operation early today thanks. Rarely get stressed anyhow..... thought I was quite ironic in my reply which consisted of more than 3 letters. Can cut it down further and still be polite: Divvy

Mag

 

[Jimmer13]

Mag

keep taking the tablets and the lessons.......english must improve somtime before you hit old age.

Good laugh this brightening up my shite day. I await some more of your scintillating wit, irony and attempt at sarcasm.......

Note must try harder

 

[Deleted member 40035]

He has made mistakes and plenty of them but that’s some gesture to wipe out probably £150m of debt.
Also holding on for people he felt would be in the best interests of the club, he probably could have cut and run for more money elsewhere.
I hope in a few years under new owners in the premier league he can come back and get a good round of applause.

A round of drinks would be more fitting but wont ever happen, he is welcome in Sunderland any day.

 

[manamamackem]

.... and it's killing them.

There must have been dozens of posters who vehemently insisted Short had a plan to take the club into administration and 'thereby line his pockets' or whatever. Even logical replies by people who understand finance, such as @Grumpy Old Man, were dismissed out of hand by people who 'knew better'.

I suspect this is the reason for so many of these 'I bet there are hidden clauses from Short and we'll be paying him for years' threads.

I've seen people claiming all kinds of dirty tricks regarding the takeover that will come back to haunt us, they simply refuse to believe we're debt free.

FFS lads, just accept he's done the decent thing and has given us the chance to draw a line on the past. Going back over Short, Bain, Byrne, etc etc etc is destructive and part of the problem. It's often said, on here, that there's a self destructive attitude from people who just happy clap and accept shit ..... so why don't those people look on the bright side, for once, and accept this opportunity to rebuild the club in the right way, just a thought.

Exactly THIS, marra.

Yeah, he’s not solely to blame and I think his intentions were good to start with.
Confronting Keane was his first mistake.
He lost me then!

I'm not so sure about his confrontation with Keano were the start of the rot. I do believe that after signing the likes of Chimbonda, etc (who were the forerunners of todays players, attitude wise at least), things were already on a downward Curve and Keano days were numbered!