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People were wrong about Short ...

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Reiver said:
I'm specifically talking about the debt free situation ... the rest has already been endlessly discussed on other threads.

That's all in the past now, the takeover is the present and the future unknown ... but brighter than it was a month ago imo.
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It is brighter without a doubt but i have my reservations about short walking away and leaving us debt free. Hes shown no compassion for the fans and the club at all in recent times so im not going to just believe hes wrote off 100 and odd mil just cause he says so. It will all come out eventually and until it does ill be very sceptical about shorts exit.
 
Fair play to him for writing off the debt but the last couple of years have been disastrous. He’s not solely to blame for that but he takes the main share.
 
I wasn't wrong, he suffocated the club which has now become evident was a choice of his. Those who said he couldn't afford to clear our debt and invest in us we're the ones who were wrong. He could, and chose to let us get in the state we were in under him. It shows just how bad he was that doing what should be the minimum basic action is to be greatly applauded, and to be honest, to see a scumbag like him do one vaguely normal thing is nice to see. But to forgive taking 6 years of our supporting lives away, killing off an entire generation of potential safc fans, sucking the club of its soul, relegating us to league 1, hiding/supporting a child molester that abused a season ticket holder, allowing us to become the laughing stock of English football, incubating a toxic culture that will take a decade to kill, and allowing the stadium and infrastructure to become completely run down and embarrassing; just because he decided to change the sheets on the bed that he pissed ? Nah mate no thanks. Fuck him.
 
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People were not wrong about short him clearing the debt just shows that he has money and that he could have put money in which would have saved us this season
 
Reiver said:
I'm specifically talking about the debt free situation ... the rest has already been endlessly discussed on other threads.

That's all in the past now, the takeover is the present and the future unknown ... but brighter than it was a month ago imo.
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Agree to a point. But I for one can’t just mentally wipe the slate clean. If you step back and look at the fuck awful mess the club is in, realistically at its lowest ebb in history, an I prepared to say Short is a decent lad who was simply poorly advised? Am I fuck - the man is a hugely successful businessman who in his running of SAFC has demonstrated no acumen whatsoever.
 
Purrfect South said:
I don’t think anyone needs to apologise. It was what was, and he isn’t blameless as you say. These kind of threads are divisive, and serve absolutely no purpose.
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That's part of the problem imo. People spouting all sorts of vile and baseless nonsense without fear of any comeback.

Slow joe said:
It is brighter without a doubt but i have my reservations about short walking away and leaving us debt free. Hes shown no compassion for the fans and the club at all in recent times so im not going to just believe hes wrote off 100 and odd mil just cause he says so. It will all come out eventually and until it does ill be very sceptical about shorts exit.
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How do you work that one out? Did you want a cuddle or something?
 
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No idea if he’s a “canny bloke” he took my team down to League 1 and for that he is an absolute disaster.

Draw a line....

With him leaving us seemingly debt free and hopefully in some capable hands I thank him for doing the decent thing. If all this turns out to be the case (let’s be honest we know sod all about the people that are taking us over and whether they are doing it for footballing reasons or purely because they see a potential profit)

We can then draw another line....
 
its ingrained now and has been over his tenure , agree we need to lose the negativity and doubt however the deal hasn't gone through as yet !
 
I’ll never forgive him for overseeing us to our lowest ever ebb, great that he’s paid off the debts and we can start afresh but we’ve had to drop to such a low level before he done something about.

I know many will disagree with me and so be it.
 
Until the details are revealed, I'm in the camp of those wondering what 'debt free' really means in the context of our club. I think we need the opinion of Grumpy Old Man on this point. I also wonder whether, a loss having been incurred by7 the owner, is he able to write the debt off against his other income?
 
Reiver said:
.... and it's killing them.

There must have been dozens of posters who vehemently insisted Short had a plan to take the club into administration and 'thereby line his pockets' or whatever. Even logical replies by people who understand finance, such as @Grumpy Old Man, were dismissed out of hand by people who 'knew better'.

I suspect this is the reason for so many of these 'I bet there are hidden clauses from Short and we'll be paying him for years' threads.

I've seen people claiming all kinds of dirty tricks regarding the takeover that will come back to haunt us, they simply refuse to believe we're debt free.

FFS lads, just accept he's done the decent thing and has given us the chance to draw a line on the past. Going back over Short, Bain, Byrne, etc etc etc is destructive and part of the problem. It's often said, on here, that there's a self destructive attitude from people who just happy clap and accept shit ..... so why don't those people look on the bright side, for once, and accept this opportunity to rebuild the club in the right way, just a thought.
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not gonna happen... the hidden agenda for some is still possible
 
fredthefan said:
His big mistake in this whole mess was not bringing in a proper football person who he could trust. Personally I would have kept Quinn or brought in someone like him. Trusting people with a dodgy pedigree did for him.
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Quinn was instrumental in starting this whole mess and his decisions were somewhat questionable. Quinn is a good figurehead, but nothing else and I don't understand the clamour for him to have stayed and advised Short. We'd have probably made the same mistakes or worse.

Boldoneye said:
You can't help wondering why a man who wouldn't spend a few million last August to mount a possible return to the PL suddenly writes off tens of millons though.
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Because if he had, he would be writing off more tens of millions now.
 
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