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Brian Griffin said:
I work in tech mate.

Generally the stuff the tech industry does isn't newsworthy - outside of a couple of headline grabbers.

There are 100s of tech companies in Manchester too.

It's not wide of the mark at all.
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It's a good thing that the region is putting a bid forward - I do hope they look beyond the London/Manchester/Birmingham thing as they have plenty keeping them occupied. BBC shifting to Manc for example. Our region is more than capable of taking on a project like this, and I think people would be willing to relocate. If not, then universities in the region are churning out people in production and media degrees in addition to the various tech qualifications. As far as I see it, science and tech are both big and still growing industries up here. Channel 4 would be well housed...bet it's cheaper too.
 


TicoTorres said:
It's a good thing that the region is putting a bid forward - I do hope they look beyond the London/Manchester/Birmingham thing as they have plenty keeping them occupied. BBC shifting to Manc for example. Our region is more than capable of taking on a project like this, and I think people would be willing to relocate. If not, then universities in the region are churning out people in production and media degrees in addition to the various tech qualifications. As far as I see it, science and tech are both big and still growing industries up here. Channel 4 would be well housed...bet it's cheaper too.
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It's not a bad thing they're putting forward a bid - but it's misguided in my opinion.

Look at the remit of C4 - Channel 4's remit | C4 Corporate

Where do we fit with that.

As stated above, broadcasters in the NE are startig their careers - C4 cannot run an organisation with kids. Professional broadcasters here get to London or Manchester as soon as they can - nobody decent stays here in all honesty (I say that as somebody who left!)

You cannot just talk about the tech success here.

We aren't multicultural enough. We aren't diverse enough. Our population base is low. We aren't even tolerant enough.
 
As I said on my thread a few weeks ago, it's somewhat depressing that Gateshead's leaders have pretty much sold themselves out to be completely vassalized by Newcastle into nothing more than an outlying suburb.

Sunderland will not suffer this fate, mark my words.
 
Brian Griffin said:
As stated above, broadcasters in the NE are startig their careers - C4 cannot run an organisation with kids. Professional broadcasters here get to London or Manchester as soon as they can - nobody decent stays here in all honesty (I say that as somebody who left!)
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One of the objectives of relocating Channel 4 is to stop dominance of London and the drain of talent towards it.
 
tiptoad said:
One of the objectives of relocating Channel 4 is to stop dominance of London and the drain of talent towards it.
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I agree, I suppose in an objective context that's a good thing; only blinded by tribal dislike of newcastle I suppose (myself included).
 
jayjaysafc said:
Newcastle and Gateshead in Channel 4 bid

Newcastle & Gateshead "bidding" to get a Channel 4 hub located in their cities

"Tyneside was the "UK's unofficial capital of culture" and a "vibrant creative community... at the heart of modern Britain"

"There are a number of cityscapes around the world that are instantly recognisable - Shanghai, Sydney Harbour, New York - and Newcastle and Gateshead is right up there."

Stretching it a bit I feel, why do they have to "bid" for it? How much do they have to pay Channel 4?
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MrOompapa said:
I agree, I suppose in an objective context that's a good thing; only blinded by tribal dislike of newcastle I suppose (myself included).
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Channel 4 doesn't make programmes, virtually everything is commissioned from independents. The London-centric nature of the industry means that these commissions tend to be dished out to London based companies, who can more easily socialise with commissioning editors, and this doesn't reflect the channel's remit to represent the whole country.

An attempt to address this was made by setting up Stuart Cosgrove's Nations & Regions office in Glasgow a couple of decades ago, and I think it will be a leading contender in the bid. But I'd support a local bid whether it was Newcastle, Sunderland or Spennymoor as it would benefit the North East as a whole, which is held back from many things by tribal loyalties.

Brian Griffin said:
The best people want to live and work in London.

Why didn't the BBC move anything important from London.
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I expect the "best people" will want to live and work in London for a variety of reasons, and will continue to do so. Channel 4's programmes are made by producers from around the country, so there's no good reason for the broadcaster to be based exclusively in London.
 
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tiptoad said:
I expect the "best people" will want to live and work in London for a variety of reasons, and will continue to do so. Channel 4's programmes are made by producers from around the country, so there's no good reason for the broadcaster to be based exclusively in London.
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If they're using independents then they won't move here anyway.
 
Brian Griffin said:
I say this as somebody who worked at a very high level in broadcasting for 15 years.

Broadcasters here tend to be at the start of their careers - they then move to the bigger cities. C4 will not want to run a broadcasting centre full of kids.

And in all honesty, the North East is not multicultural enough nor is it open minded enough. You get that in the bigger cities...Manchester being the best example outside of London.



They wouldn't.

Why would you work for C4 in Newcastle when if you're at that level you could work in London.

Cardiff is the Capital city of Wales - not a back water in the North of England.
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I work in film production and that is bollocks that we don't have enough talent here.
 
HABA87 said:
the Tyne bridge
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I don't think it's very recognisable at all. Just looks like another metal bridge to me and I've been over it 500 times. I doubt a Southerner would recognise it tbf. Dare I say the Millenium bridge is far more recognisable to non-natives?

The Angel definitely stands out though.

Good luck to the twats I hope they get laughed at.
 
Brian Griffin said:
If they're using independents then they won't move here anyway.
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What do you mean by "if"? You say you've worked at a very high level in broadcasting, I'd expect you to have known that Channel 4's programming is almost exclusively produced by independents. None of which would have to move anywhere, but the commissioning process would be decentralised, which can only be a good thing for the rest of the country.
 
sketchy said:
I work in film production and that is bcks that we don't have enough talent here.
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Mate I'm sure there are - it's very different game getting yourself to the standards needed of producing an entire TV show. Most people would fall at the first hurdle of hitting the deadline. You need to learn all of this stuff from people who've done it before.

tiptoad said:
What do you mean by "if"? You say you've worked at a very high level in broadcasting, I'd expect you to have known that Channel 4's programming is almost exclusively produced by independents. None of which would have to move anywhere, but the commissioning process would be decentralised, which can only be a good thing for the rest of the country.
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There's no doubt that I have worked in broadcasting at a high level both here and North America.

C4 are committed to spending a large percentage of its programming budget outside of London by about 2020 I think so indies will feel the benefit of that. But it's foolish to think that by moving more work would be awarded outside of London as a default.

C4 openly say that 80% of its workforce will leave if forced to move so don't expect anything of any significance to move. In my opinion.
 
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Brian Griffin said:
Mate I'm sure there are - it's very different game getting yourself to the standards needed of producing an entire TV show. Most people would fall at the first hurdle of hitting the deadline. You need to learn all of this stuff from people who've done it before.



There's no doubt that I have worked in broadcasting at a high level both here and North America.

C4 are committed to spending a large percentage of its programming budget outside of London by about 2020 I think so indies will feel the benefit of that. But it's foolish to think that by moving more work would be awarded outside of London as a default.

C4 openly say that 80% of its workforce will leave if forced to move so don't expect anything of any significance to move. In my opinion.
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You talk like no TV programmes are filmed up here already.
 
The Angel of the North has fuck all to do with us who live in South Durham, it's just a giant shit stain on a hill.
 
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