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Looking for a new 1 year deal no doubt. The day we signed JOS, we were a top half Premier League club, now we're looking highly likely to be relegated to League One. It's not all his fault obviously but he should have been peddled years a go.
 
rocky said:
Cattermole has got on with every manager he has played for bar one. The one who banished him and didn't even give him a squad number then recalled him when he realised he was wrong.
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Didnt get on with Moyes. I cant remember anyone other than Gus being chummy with him. Even Bruce took a sly dig.

I think its fair to say he has a bit of sway in the dressing room isnt?
 
Coeus said:
Didnt get on with Moyes. I cant remember anyone other than Gus being chummy with him. Even Bruce took a sly dig.

I think its fair to say he has a bit of sway in the dressing room isnt?
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Barely played for Moyes and he quit. Bruce signed him twice. MON liked him. Dick gave him a new deal. Sam played him and Gus liked him and now Coleman seemingly likes him.

Obvious?
 
rocky said:
Barely played for Moyes and he quit. Bruce signed him twice. MON liked him. Dick gave him a new deal. Sam played him and Gus liked him and now Coleman seemingly likes him.

Obvious?
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Dick didnt give him a new deal, I remember him saying that was given by the club, not his decision. One could even jump to a conclusion that he disagreed with it by even saying something like that. Obviously this was compounded by him hauling Cattermole off after half an hour of his first game of the season.

So thats MoN and Gus that we know of.

Whats obvious, sorry?

And its fair to say he has a bit of sway in the dressing room, agree?
 
Allardyce
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...important-for-sunderland-s-survival-1-7880663

O'Neill

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...-sunderland-boss-martin-o-neill-1-4281812/amp

Poyet

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/899587

Advocaat

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...ole-is-vital-to-sunderland-advocaat-1-7252372

Coeus said:
Dick didnt give him a new deal, I remember him saying that was given by the club, not his decision. One could even jump to a conclusion that he disagreed with it by even saying something like that. Obviously this was compounded by him hauling Cattermole off after half an hour of his first game of the season.

So thats MoN and Gus that we know of.

Whats obvious, sorry?

And its fair to say he has a bit of sway in the dressing room, agree?
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What sway does he have and can you please give me examples

Also the week after he hauled him off he started him in the next game.
 
rocky said:
Allardyce
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...important-for-sunderland-s-survival-1-7880663

O'Neill

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...-sunderland-boss-martin-o-neill-1-4281812/amp

Poyet

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/899587

Advocaat

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...ole-is-vital-to-sunderland-advocaat-1-7252372


What sway does he have and can you please give me examples

Also the week after he hauled him off he started him in the next game.
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How can he be a motivator and leader if he's injured half the time?
 
rocky said:
Allardyce
https://www.sunderlandecho.com/spor...important-for-sunderland-s-survival-1-7880663

O'Neill

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...-sunderland-boss-martin-o-neill-1-4281812/amp

Poyet

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/899587

Advocaat

https://www.shieldsgazette.com/spor...ole-is-vital-to-sunderland-advocaat-1-7252372


What sway does he have and can you please give me examples

Also the week after he hauled him off he started him in the next game.
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Im not going to go to the effort off debating this if you cant even provide straight answers.

Rotten core, not really. Disruptive influence when pissed off, I reckon so.

Massive waste of potential and wages unfortunately.
 
Can't get away from the fact that he's been a liability and that he's all but finished. Unprofessional both on and off the field.

The sooner Coleman discovers what we all know , the sooner he can write Cattermole out of his plans and we can move on.
 
Coeus said:
Im not going to go to the effort off debating this if you cant even provide straight answers.

Rotten core, not really. Disruptive influence when pissed off, I reckon so.

Massive waste of potential and wages unfortunately.
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Straight answers? You 'reckon' so. I don't.
 
rocky said:
Straight answers? You 'reckon' so. I don't.
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I asked you about sway Rocky, you wouldnt answer whilst speaking about him being a motivator. The selective points are tiresome also.

Im happy to leave it at I think so but you dont, but it certainly isnt rediculous or obvious as you said earliar.
 
Coeus said:
I asked you about sway Rocky, you wouldnt answer whilst speaking about him being a motivator. The selective points are tiresome also.

Im happy to leave it at I think so but you dont, but it certainly isnt rediculous or obvious as you said earliar.
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I asked you what sway he has. I don't know what sway he has. I'm assuming you do or do you just reckon?

Also I said anyone can be a motivator.
 
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