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How long can Rafa last?

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rentaghost said:
What are you talking about too expensive? :lol:nobody is talking about buying them it was just whether or not they were good enough to play in the CHAMPIONSHIP for NUFC under RAFA. Did you even read the thread. Worra thicky! :neutral: ;)
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Oh do fuck off you arse licking mag knacker. ;):)
 

ProfessionalMackem said:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

What a f***ing simpleton you are just like the rest of you kernt mags.

Can you please show me where any mackem has called Coleman world class? I get world class from all your dullard mates when I talk about how Benetiz, he is a f***ing charlatan.
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If Benitez is so bad - why do you waste so much hot air discussing him. ?
 
Slim999 said:
If Benitez is so bad - why do you waste so much hot air discussing him. ?
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three issues.

-Its a safc board.I can talk about what the fuck I want

-how do you know I waste so much hot air on him?

-classic deflection tactic by a kernt mag. Answer the question I asked. Oh no? cos that would show you up for the absolute kernt you and the rest of your ilk are
 
Ceverton said:
Summer 2016 Benitez has the best squad in the championship, spends £54m and then about another £40m the following summer.

Hughton at Brighton and Wagner at Huddersfield started summer 2016 with much weaker teams than Newcastle (especially Huddersfield). Both teams have spent less than Newcastle since summer 2016.

12 games into following season and about 16 months on from that summer, Newcastle are below both Brighton and Huddersfield.

Lots of talk the other day on the radio that Benitez will hand in his resignation if takeover falls through and he does not get funds to spend. Why does he have such a strong bargaining position? Are people still going on about a cup win in 2005?
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I don't think this was right at all. And Benitez said as much.

Brighton had a stronger squad than Newcastle built up over five years. But Brighton had six first teamers injured for the whole season as the actual playing squad was handicapped, especially noticeable at the end of the season. (With the extra games a strong squad of 26 players is needed in the Championship.)

The wheels nearly fell off for Newcastle at a crucial period last season but they got lucky. All down to Short failing to back Benitez in the last January market.

Newcastle made a scoop signing in Ritchie, a very good signing in Hayden, but another injury in midfield would have seriously hampered them last season with one player in Colback as cover.

Short is unwilling or unable to back Benitez even to the prudent spending of Brighton this season. Or the players are not available?

I think teams underestimated Huddersfield last season and that gave them some extra points. Not that did not deserve to go up and I thought at one stage they would catch Newcastle, but the combination of other teams realising they were quite good and injuries mounting in a weaker squad stalled them.

Brighton have had an easy start this season so far, so there position is false. Brighton got so badly outplayed by Man City (better than Liverpool of the seventies) in the first game that their confidence was badly dented, and dropped points with home draws, especially against Everton who were awful (except for Pickford, Keane and Jagielka). These dropped points could count in the final countdown.

I expect Brighton and Newcastle will be neck and neck this season if Benitez stays.
 
Perseus said:
I don't think this was right at all. And Benitez said as much.

Brighton had a stronger squad than Newcastle built up over five years. But Brighton had six first teamers injured for the whole season as the actual playing squad was handicapped, especially noticeable at the end of the season. (With the extra games a strong squad of 26 players is needed in the Championship.)

The wheels nearly fell off for Newcastle at a crucial period last season but they got lucky. All down to Short failing to back Benitez in the last January market.

Newcastle made a scoop signing in Ritchie, a very good signing in Hayden, but another injury in midfield would have seriously hampered them last season with one player in Colback as cover.

Short is unwilling or unable to back Benitez even to the prudent spending of Brighton this season. Or the players are not available?

I think teams underestimated Huddersfield last season and that gave them some extra points. Not that did not deserve to go up and I thought at one stage they would catch Newcastle, but the combination of other teams realising they were quite good and injuries mounting in a weaker squad stalled them.

Brighton have had an easy start this season so far, so there position is false. Brighton got so badly outplayed by Man City (better than Liverpool of the seventies) in the first game that their confidence was badly dented, and dropped points with home draws, especially against Everton who were awful (except for Pickford, Keane and Jagielka). These dropped points could count in the final countdown.

I expect Brighton and Newcastle will be neck and neck this season if Benitez stays.
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By the time he's finished I doubt he'll have done half as good a job as what Pards did but as I've said before if you have a foreign name you're likely to get better appreciation
 
Jack Torrance said:
By the time he's finished I doubt he'll have done half as good a job as what Pards did but as I've said before if you have a foreign name you're likely to get better appreciation
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What exactly made the job that Pardew did "good"?

I really hope you're not going to say "he got you 5th". Because 1 season isn't a full picture of his tenure as Newcastle manager, is it?
Coming into work on a saturday has soured my mood.
 
Fulwell87 said:
There is a sense here that if people on this board repeat things so often I think they can convince themselves.

They would love a manager of Rafa’s esteeem but their blind hatred and inferiority complex gets in the way.

It probably comes from not having that complex in the mindset at Newcastle but I don’t see Newcastle fans blindly hating the second club in the region.

Don’t get me wrong I enjoy seeing them beaten but the level of blind hatred is spiteful. Sunderland are a proud regional club like Newcastle I respect that whilst being very grateful to be a Geordie.
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I said way before Benitez was at Newcastle that I would not want Benitez here at Sunderland, I stick by that, it is nothing to do with being bias against Newcastle, it is my own personal opinion right or wrong that Benitez is overated.

ReaL Madras said:
I don't have a clue how they are doing and frankly, I don't care. Our club is having too desperate a time to even think about what is going on in their world.

I don't even look at the Premier League fixtures or results any longer.
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Well that is nowt really to be proud of (or ashamed of), but you are not a football fan, you are just a sunderland fan.

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Cup competitions since 2005, every other season he has underachieved mostly and in some cases very very badly. Liverpool he wasted the prime years of Gerrard, Torres etc, then its took years to rebuild after his spending, it got to the stage he wanted rid of Xabi Alonso for Gareth Barry. Inter Milan he took over league and european champions and left them 7th, Chelsea did ok to be fair, Napoli was an absolute disgrace, spent more than any other team in Serie A in each of his seasons there and failed in the league, Real Madrid :lol:

Mallard said:
6 pages of healthy debate on a fella who is beyond criticism seems like a perfectly good way to waste time.
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This is pretty much it mate :lol:

Perseus said:
I don't think this was right at all. And Benitez said as much.

Brighton had a stronger squad than Newcastle built up over five years. But Brighton had six first teamers injured for the whole season as the actual playing squad was handicapped, especially noticeable at the end of the season. (With the extra games a strong squad of 26 players is needed in the Championship.)

The wheels nearly fell off for Newcastle at a crucial period last season but they got lucky. All down to Short failing to back Benitez in the last January market.

Newcastle made a scoop signing in Ritchie, a very good signing in Hayden, but another injury in midfield would have seriously hampered them last season with one player in Colback as cover.

Short is unwilling or unable to back Benitez even to the prudent spending of Brighton this season. Or the players are not available?

I think teams underestimated Huddersfield last season and that gave them some extra points. Not that did not deserve to go up and I thought at one stage they would catch Newcastle, but the combination of other teams realising they were quite good and injuries mounting in a weaker squad stalled them.

Brighton have had an easy start this season so far, so there position is false. Brighton got so badly outplayed by Man City (better than Liverpool of the seventies) in the first game that their confidence was badly dented, and dropped points with home draws, especially against Everton who were awful (except for Pickford, Keane and Jagielka). These dropped points could count in the final countdown.

I expect Brighton and Newcastle will be neck and neck this season if Benitez stays.
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Stopped reading there mate
 
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What A Waster said:
Before my time on here but was there threads like this about Roeder, Souness, Pardew, McClaren?
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I think it's more about the quite amazing levels of idolisation of a manager who is quite a few years past his best and whose football strategy is very similar to Allardyce. Keep it tight hit on the break and if you go a goal up try and settle for that. Hardly what the 'Entertainers' were noted for.

rentaghost said:
Yer as thick as whale spunk genters! ;)
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Thous as thick as Mrs Browns knickers Renty lad ;):)
 
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jonny gently said:
I think it's more about the quite amazing levels of idolisation of a manager who is quite a few years past his best and whose football strategy is very similar to Allardyce. Keep it tight hit on the break and if you go a goal up try and settle for that. Hardly what the 'Entertainers' were noted for.


Thous as thick as Mrs Browns knickers Renty lad ;):)
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Yer as thick as Iain Hesford's excrement young genters fella! ;) :)
 
The Fish said:
What exactly made the job that Pardew did "good"?

I really hope you're not going to say "he got you 5th". Because 1 season isn't a full picture of his tenure as Newcastle manager, is it?
Coming into work on a saturday has soured my mood.
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Wey he did get 5th, quarter finals of Europe, had yous a top 10 club. All this without any real backing from the owner
 
Slim999 said:
No because we could all see how shot they were from day 1.
Rafa is a good manager - hence the over worked critique of him on here.
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Yep.
'He only won this competition because of x,y,z'

You could discredit any victory by anybody really if you want to go that route.
 
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