We are being manipulated by the elite

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ProfessionalMackem said:
Not really marra. I can still think that the general populace are being manipulated and not have anything wrong in my life. The two issues are not mutually exclusive.

Do you actually believe the top 1-5% have no impact on the general population? Have you heard of subliminal advertising?
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Isn't subliminal advertising a bit old hat? Not sure why it has to be elites doing all the manipulating. Something like the Twitter Firehose allows all sorts of organisations to collect and analyse RTI data to collect information on individuals even when you might think you've never given that information out, an obvious example being date of birth. This isn't something thats being hidden away either. We've all come across the claim that collecting data on us allows organisations to provide a 'better service'. Most of the time it's annoying but relatively harmless. The rest of the time is hardly worth thinking about or you'll drive yourself mad.
 
dangermows said:
They dont need to manipulate thought tbf, they can just do as they please. They fancy a war, they have an army, they can have one. Even if its illegal and people protest, it happens anyway. Same with censorship and monitoring, they say its happening, we say its shocking, it happens anyway.



Isnt gravity (due to the mass of the Earth) the reason why water "sticks to the surface of the globe" ?
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Isn't that just a bit convenient eh, the mass of the earth causes stuff to stick to it but things can float away from it or we can build planes that are powerful enough to pull away from a force strong enough to stick water to an enormous globe...a lot of water on a f***ing enormous globe...that's a big force. Haway, if you stop and think about it it sounds ridiculous.
 
zwartekat said:
Isn't subliminal advertising a bit old hat? Not sure why it has to be elites doing all the manipulating. Something like the Twitter Firehose allows all sorts of organisations to collect and analyse RTI data to collect information on individuals even when you might think you've never given that information out, an obvious example being date of birth. This isn't something thats being hidden away either. We've all come across the claim that collecting data on us allows organisations to provide a 'better service'. Most of the time it's annoying but relatively harmless. The rest of the time is hardly worth thinking about or you'll drive yourself mad.
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Most of the time it's relatively harmless but you have to wonder what's behind the decision to engage in emotional programming through social media?
 
Cowvahlo said:
Haway then smart arse, explain how gravity works, explain how water can stick to the surface of a globe....without googling. Or are you just going to be another bellend who ridicules a post without backing himself up due to a complete inability to have a debate regardless how preposterous the subject is?
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Dear me - ok, first, you're aware water has mass ? and you're aware mass has, by definition, a gravitational force ? You may not be aware that the gravitational force exerted on a body, in this case the water in the oceans, is proportional to the mass of the body exerting that force ? if memory serves, G1 + g2 (being the gravitational forces exerted by the two bodies, the earth and the water ) = G, the gravitational attraction between them, thus the greater the mass, the greater the gravitational force - like I said, if memory serves, it was a while ago when I did simple Newtonian mechanics
 
Cowvahlo said:
Isn't that just a bit convenient eh, the mass of the earth causes stuff to stick to it but things can float away from it or we can build planes that are powerful enough to pull away from a force strong enough to stick water to an enormous globe...a lot of water on a f***ing enormous globe...that's a big force. Haway, if you stop and think about it it sounds ridiculous.
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I think you need to learn what the letter m means in newtonian physics
 
Cowvahlo said:
Isn't that just a bit convenient eh, the mass of the earth causes stuff to stick to it but things can float away from it or we can build planes that are powerful enough to pull away from a force strong enough to stick water to an enormous globe...a lot of water on a f***ing enormous globe...that's a big force. Haway, if you stop and think about it it sounds ridiculous.
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Water is made up of tiny droplets mate, it isn't one big thing. The force of a plane at full pelt (lift) is much greater than water just sitting there.

What do you think is keeping the water on Earth?
 
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Teed said:
That's a very blinkered view, people have been manipulated by the elite for thousands of years mate, read your history books, do you think all those men that lost their lives in various wars, weren't taking responsibility themselves?
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You're applying my answer to something I didn't respond to, the OP posted saying "by higher powers other than the ones we already know of" - I think we're all aware of those that cause wars etc. so my view stands

ProfessionalMackem said:
Not really marra. I can still think that the general populace are being manipulated and not have anything wrong in my life. The two issues are not mutually exclusive.

Do you actually believe the top 1-5% have no impact on the general population? Have you heard of subliminal advertising?
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Again, I refer you to my earlier posting the OP said "by higher powers other than the ones we already know of" - I think we're all aware of the force exerted by advertising etc - btw, who are the top 1-5% ? by wealth ? by height ?
 
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Unbalanced Views said:
You're applying my answer to something I didn't respond to, the OP posted saying "by higher powers other than the ones we already know of" - I think we're all aware of those that cause wars etc. so my view stands




Again, I refer you to my earlier posting the OP said "by higher powers other than the ones we already know of" - I think we're all aware of the force exerted by advertising etc - btw, who are the top 1-5% ? by wealth ? by height ?
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By wealth the top 1% has more money than the other 99% put together I think?

The people who have the most money aren't listed in Forbes etc either apparently Putin is meant to be one of the richest yet the media has Bill Gates and that Amazons owner as the top two.
 
Discopants91 said:
If I believed some of the stuff spouted on these threads I'd be inclined to do something about it.
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I've thought long and hard about that very question. What legal ways we have at our disposal to "do something about it".

Protesting is one way. They're were loads of anti war protests before 7/7 in London. "They" stopped that pretty sharp. Plus there are new laws in place now where we can't even protest outside parliament.

Another way to protest is to watch where you spend your money. Smaller independents rather than big Corp.

But essentially there is not a lot we can do. Apart from spreading the word, stopping the fear propaganda in its tracks. Which is very difficult to do. When at work if I hear MSM propaganda being propagated, I try to dampen it. But believe it or not I never go tin foil often. In the 10-13 years I've been awake I must have only talked about this stuff to a handful of people. What I've realised is people are just not bothered by the blatant inequalities in this world. They are far happier to live in ignorance watching X factor than wanting to open their eyes. Most people are like Cypher who wanted to get back into the matrix as he couldn't handle the "real" world.
 
Unbalanced Views said:
Dear me - ok, first, you're aware water has mass ? and you're aware mass has, by definition, a gravitational force ? You may not be aware that the gravitational force exerted on a body, in this case the water in the oceans, is proportional to the mass of the body exerting that force ? if memory serves, G1 + g2 (being the gravitational forces exerted by the two bodies, the earth and the water ) = G, the gravitational attraction between them, thus the greater the mass, the greater the gravitational force - like I said, if memory serves, it was a while ago when I did simple Newtonian mechanics
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f***ing hell, well done, an answer...see, that's how you do it. Instead of the shite posts that you've been posting you post evidence or reasoning why something is what it is and it disproves a theory. It's not hard is it?
 
Cowvahlo said:
f***ing hell, well done, an answer...see, that's how you do it. Instead of the shite posts that you've been posting you post evidence or reasoning why something is what it is and it disproves a theory. It's not hard is it?
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I've no idea what you're talking about, I would suggest you don't either - provide an example ?
 
monkeytassle said:
I think you need to learn what the letter m means in newtonian physics
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Just trying to drag an end to the theory out of unbalanced view my dear monkey, that's the problem with these threads. People come on, hurl an insult or two without contributing to the debate.

Unbalanced Views said:
I've no idea what you're talking about, I would suggest you don't either - provide an example ?
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Before you go on ignore, which alter are you anyway? I hope it's not one that I previously liked.
 
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