Moyes poll

Should the club?

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1more said:
Kone has been a shadow of the player of last season. Zero improvement.

The latter is am improvement on the first 10 games but it could hardly get any worse. 13 points from 11 games is just over par. In the last few games of that spell we have reverted back to being shit. 1 step forward 3 steps back.
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You surely mean under par ;)
 


jsdftm04 said:
3 have gone and 2 of them were signed by Allardyce. This argument is utter nonsense
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It's Moyes fault. He should have recognised two of Sams were Africans so should have refrained from signing anymore. Therefore the one signed by Moyes is the mistake. Or summat like that.
 
MrBraithwaite said:
Everton were going to get relegated until he took over. You may not like the job he is doing at the moment, but you cannot rewrite history. He totally turned that club around.
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He also had them in a relegation dog fight marra and Everton fans were divided about him. Don't you rewrite history either.
 
Keith S30S said:
In hindsight the wording could have been better but the options are the same anyway. Sack, not sure, keep.
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Like I've said, I honestly wouldn't care if Moyes went. But whoever replaces him will end up doing equally as shit. The owner is the big problem.

36% debt increase least year alone. Utter disgraceful.

Short out
 
Over 60% against sacking him (and seems to be increasing) - the voice of the sensible silent majority is heard.
 
jonny gently said:
He also had them in a relegation dog fight marra and Everton fans were divided about him. Don't you rewrite history either.
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Walter Smith had them in a relegation dog fight and a team full of over the hill pros - Paul Gascoigne, Ginola etc. Second season had them finish near the top.

It was the third season (Rooney's breakthrough year) he was almost relegated. But HIS signing Tim Cahill came back from injury and they finished safe. Also ended Arsenals run I think with that Rooney wondergoal.

Following season they sold Rooney, he invested the cash and got them into the Champion's League. Then UEFA stiffed em.
 
GipseT said:
Wish more anger was directed towards Short instead.
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All of it is, where it matters, at the games. None at Moyes.

MrBraithwaite said:
Walter Smith had them in a relegation dog fight and a team full of over the hill pros - Paul Gascoigne, Ginola etc. Second season had them finish near the top.

It was the third season (Rooney's breakthrough year) he was almost relegated. But HIS signing Tim Cahill came back from injury and they finished safe. Also ended Arsenals run I think with that Rooney wondergoal.

Following season they sold Rooney, he invested the cash and got them into the Champion's League. Then UEFA stiffed em.
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Got lucky.
 
dangermows said:
All of it is, where it matters, at the games. None at Moyes.



Got lucky.
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I can understand people being pissed with the form and with Moyes. But on the other hand he is the league's best (prem era) manager behind Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho in my opinion.

I don't see who could realistically come in and do a better job, short an especially long term.
 
MrBraithwaite said:
I can understand people being pissed with the form and with Moyes. But on the other hand he is the league's best (prem era) manager behind Fergie, Wenger and Mourinho in my opinion.
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Of course people will be. But to think that means his work at Everton was both shite and lucky (you can try to work that one out) is laughable.

I wouldn't rank him as high as you mind.
 
jsdftm04 said:
Like I've said, I honestly wouldn't care if Moyes went. But whoever replaces him will end up doing equally as shit. The owner is the big problem.

36% debt increase least year alone. Utter disgraceful.

Short out
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This is the crux of the problem. Making such a loss is down to Short's stupid appointments such as Maggie Byrne who was a 31 year old solicitor appointed CEO of a multimillion pound business or Gary Hutchinson as Commercial Director when his only experience was running the club restaurant. Its amazing that such a successful business man could trust this investment to such inexperienced and inappropriate staff. It seems like Bain is, at last, a decent appointment. However, Short wants to sell the club - we can't force him out as he needs a buyer first. Until then we are, effectively, in limbo. Sacking the manager would be a pointless activity.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
Making such a loss is down to Short's stupid appointments such as Maggie Byrne who was a 31 year old solicitor appointed CEO of a multimillion pound business or Gary Hutchinson as Commercial Director
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We could argue those appointments were bad, but I'm not sure how they can be blamed for a succession of managers wasting millions in the transfer market, which is the real reason for the losses.
 
I've never been in two minds so much about a manager. I believe he can do better for us and even short of results that he seems head and shoulders above the pitiful state some previous managers have got the team into. But seems to me we are at a crossroads - although giving him a little longer is a soft option - I'm wary that then it may be too late if it is the wrong option.

It's about the club and owner far more than manager, and that has never been clearer before. We need some new faces in, the annual firemen - and firemen need good terms and over the odds pay. But that is where we are and staying in the PL is better than a sojourn lower down regardless of Mag propaganda. If we don't get new faces then we probably go down regardless of who is in the dugout.
 
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