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Wakey ftm in Sussex
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safctommie
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The game at Roker Park in the 1969/70 season was when the mags entered the Fulwell very early and just about filled it.Trouble in the bottom right corner for most of the game and at half time.Hell on after the game on their way back to Seaburn Station.House and shop windows smashed.
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I've been sent these images tonight by e-mail and I've been asked to put them on this thread:
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Gordon Bucket - Legend round Sunderland used to clean cars round local businesses. Got kidnapped by vauxies lads in town night before first third division game of the season v Brentford in 87 and taken down on the train. Got purposely arrested outside griffin park to get away from them before the match??
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Roker End no 17 Vauxies crew
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On The Way To Middlesbrough 2000
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I was at the Brentford first third div game and confirm Gordon The Bucket was indeed kidnapped. My marra knew him as a neighbour and got a garbled tale out of him. He had his bucket and shammies and was walking around near the red lion (now macdonalds iirc) looking for cars to wash the poor bastard. Even then we thought it wasn't "right" but fuck me it was funny.
Is that York pic the 4-1 iirc? Easter time? If so it was my first away game if not my first away game must've been the following season.
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Describes him perfectly and exactly what this thread is about.
He had a minibus down at Norwich in the 70's and I'd borrowed a load of kazoos from me Mam's jazz band.
We played every Sunderland song we knew, all the way down & back, and he joined in with every one despite doing all the driving
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Yes thats the York game. I didnt go but my older mates went (I was just 13). They went down in a van and they were walking along this back street they bumped into what they said was probably the only York City hooligans at the game!! some incident took place.
Crowd trouble at SAFC games isnt of course new:
With Sunderland starting to build an exciting side (they ended the 1909/10 side just a couple of wins from third place), a mammoth crowd rolled up for the first of the Tyne–Wear encounters on 18th September 1909 – a match famous for its off-the-field events rather than being noted for the football on it.
For the record the Magpies, who were superior right from the outset of the match, triumphed 2-0, with goals from Stewart and Shepherd, but the mere fact that the game went ahead at all was testament to the efforts of the police and the Sunderland secretary (manager) Bob Kyle.
It was evident as soon as the gates opened that the ground would be overwhelmed with spectators and so it proved as (various estimates) between 35,000 and 40,000 turned up to see the football and long before the game had even kicked-off spectators had threatened to spilled over the barriers to get away from the crush.
When the players left the dressing rooms the crowd was so dense that a path had to be cleared to allow them on to the field, although the game started on time and Brown kicked off for Sunderland in bright sunshine.
The first half was about 30 minutes in when the crowd first spilled on to the field at the Fulwell End of the ground (the Roker End being the other “End” at Roker Park). Play was suspended and for almost 15 minutes the players were kept idle while referee Mason, Sunderland secretary Mr Kyle, and the police tried to get the people back behind the barriers. They were assisted by directors and two mounted police.
Before the horses arrived two constables were seen leading a spectator across the ground towards the enclosure. The man proceeded in quite an orderly manner until he approached the centre circle, then a struggle took place and one of the policemen was struck in the face. Finally Mr Kyle joined the trio and persuaded the man to proceed to the enclosure. While this was going on spectators from other parts of the ground rushed on to the field and were even running to and fro across the pitch. The crowd were rather sympathetic to the arrested man and cheered as he went off.
The referee and Sunderland chairman Mr Taylor walked around the ground trying to get the crowd to move back, and eventually play was resumed. This was the signal for one of the horses to start a game of its own and it went prancing across the field, much to the amusement of the spectators. The game was stopped two or three times more, first on account of the horse and later because the crowd again encroached on to the field, especially in the second half when sheer numbers hid the corner flags and lines for an appreciable time.
It was learned afterwards that one of the police horses had been stabbed and the chief constable offered a £5 reward for information leading to the detection of the offender. In view of the stoppages doubts were raised as to whether the match would be allowed to count as a league game but the referee stated at the end that it would count as such. He was also adamant that the full 90 minutes had been played. The United team were advised by the police to make the journey from Tyneside by motor coach, thus avoiding the crush for trams.
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That day at anfield was great and it was aload of bollocks that they let us win. Hansen hit the bar on purpose did he ??
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Myself and about 3-4 mates went down when we heard the Mags were there,always wondered who or how we heard that, when we got there I'd never seen so many skins nearly all big bastards as well all in Hampden road and outside the Fulwell we got in but we were bairns against some of them, iirc Celtic Porky Sammy Smith Cappa and a few others ended up at the back of the Roker.
riffraff
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Without a doubt the most entertaining two and a half hours I've ever spent in a football ground. You couldn't of made it up tbh.Without a doubt the most mental night I've ever been involved in, much worse than the SJP play off, etc.
Trouble on the way into the area, walking to the ground, outside the ground, inside the ground, after the match and driving away!
It was funny at the same time because it was so surreal.
You can find a Look North clip on YouTube that shows the trouble report followed by the match report
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Chelsea lc sf was a really scary night.
Was on edge all evening.
Me and Jeff stayed with a mate in Chiswick and had a couple with other lads in a bar well out of way of ground.
Got in ground but had to walk past chelsea scum above us to get to our sections. The atmosphere was pure evil.
Could not believe we didnt have whole end as we gave them most of RE and RWS seats.
The pitch invasion looked like it was well out of control til mounted police charged on to the pitch.
At end of game, we jumped on to a Safcsa coach as Jeff knew one of the stewards and they agreed to drop us in central london as no way were we gona try and get tube to chiswick from any tube station in vicinity of SB. Needless to say, bus windows got put in and one lad suffered eye injury.
Eventually got back to mates house in chiswick just after midnight and made few calls to family to assure them we were ok.
Chelsea were animals that night and its no wonder they were hated by all and sundry.
Howd u not get filled in like ??
Was on edge all evening.
Me and Jeff stayed with a mate in Chiswick and had a couple with other lads in a bar well out of way of ground.
Got in ground but had to walk past chelsea scum above us to get to our sections. The atmosphere was pure evil.
Could not believe we didnt have whole end as we gave them most of RE and RWS seats.
The pitch invasion looked like it was well out of control til mounted police charged on to the pitch.
At end of game, we jumped on to a Safcsa coach as Jeff knew one of the stewards and they agreed to drop us in central london as no way were we gona try and get tube to chiswick from any tube station in vicinity of SB. Needless to say, bus windows got put in and one lad suffered eye injury.
Eventually got back to mates house in chiswick just after midnight and made few calls to family to assure them we were ok.
Chelsea were animals that night and its no wonder they were hated by all and sundry.
You went in FE when it was full of skunks ?
Howd u not get filled in like ??
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riffraff
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I remember coming out of the ground asap after the final whistle went and looking for our van because the driver had said get on it sharpish cos I'm not waiting long cos the sooner we get back to Sunderland the sooner we can start celebrating.
There was a mad scouser with a home made axe (oxy-propane cut from steel, probably the shipyards) and he was walking around smashing it down on car bonnets. Every now and then he'd jump around shouting "come and have a go at the something red men". I kept my distance.
My marra thought he was saying greasy red men and it was only a few years later when working with one that I figured out he was saying crazy red men.
Not much of a story tbh but it put paid in our eyes to the notion of jovial scoured football fans.
They were the Gillis twins.
Back on topic, if your mate The Fulwell is who I think he is, I remember a night match in early 80's at Preston. Bit of handbags outside after the match. He gave a Preston fan a right hoof up the arse & broke his own ankle. He was in agony all the way home. F***ing hilarious to watch.
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The Gillis twins thats right !!!
Aye, Che####r was a nightmare in those days.
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Aye but he got on the wrong side of it a few times. Remember Charlton, think it was the game when Millwall were on the pitch at the end. As we went to the match they were doing loads of building work outside their end. There was loads of wet tar on the ground and people were walking through it. Loads of DM sole prints all over the pavements. When we got to the train station after the bother at the match we went to the platform. When we got there, there was a dis-shevelled C he'd had a hiding & his face & clothes were covered in tarry DM prints. You can't write comedy like that.
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Was this a revenge mission for the game at sjp when sunderland went in the LE and werent removed all game ??
My wife's cousin was married to a Washington skin and mad keen sunlun fan. At family get togethers hed regale the lads with a few tales.
He always maintained that a good number were in the LE all game in 68/69 season to get them back for aug 68.
April 70 they were outside the FE at 12 !!
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We didn't have scarves on and we're only 14 ish at the time I can remember being down st the front when Our older lads got in and it started seemed to be battled all the game but they were
probably just four young boys and no threat to them, we had no scarves on and I think we ended up right at the front watching the various skirmishes some of these bastards were huge I recall my initial shock at seeing so many and barely a Sunderland lad in sight, they got there really early well planned and organised.
oddjob
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The Brentford game as above we arrived early and were walking round looking for a pub that was open and serving SAFC fans. In the distance we saw a pub with what looked like a dog curled up in the doorway so we headed off to see if we could get in. Once we got a little closer we realised it wasn't a dog but a "curled up" Gilly (Stanley) lying asleep like a dog in the doorway, when he woke he explained he had been there for a couple of hours at least!!
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