I've met some truly mad Sunderland supporters .....

[buster]

Ive got the court appearances to back me up. Lots of money on solicitors and fines. I still have the friends and aquiantances........but they werent jolly times as portrayed on here as my post proves. To many wannabees painting pictures of themselves for glory. Leeds away, west ham and spurs were never a jolly ruck.......not when you were in them. Recounting the pain that was going on in the middle of the street is easy ......you werent in it. If you were you wouldnt be glorifying it and telling tall tales to other posters despite your username.
Theres many tales i could tell but they involve serious illegal activity and acts......those days are gone and football is the better for it.
Theres no glory on a train wondering if a friend is actuallt going to bleed to death or being unable to get to one who has a group around him stamping on his head.
Your sanitised glory days of a thick ear or fat lip did not exist......not at the games i attended that you profess to have been at.

What you witnessed and say you got involved in , is similar in many ways to many others on here have posted as their recollections of what was a very violent part of our cultural history.

Mods and rockers , Teddy Boys , Skinheads and hippies , football hooligans , the casual culture , the list is endless , do you want all those erased from history as well ?

It's no different to any other message board , read and hopefully learn something , reply in a constructive manner or don't comment at all or ultimately log off , it's your choice but try not to spoil the thread that others enjoy.

Thank you.

 

[Vauxie]

What you witnessed and say you got involved in , is similar in many ways to many others on here have posted as their recollections of what was a very violent part of our cultural history.

Mods and rockers , Teddy Boys , Skinheads and hippies , football hooligans , the casual culture , the list is endless , do you want all those erased from history as well ?

It's no different to any other message board , read and hopefully learn something , reply in a constructive manner or don't comment at all or ultimately log off , it's your choice but try not to spoil the thread that others enjoy.

Thank you.

Well said

 

[Wakey ftm in Sussex]

You are right of course. Can you remember a game at WBA when you and Sheff waltzed into the pub at the side of their end at 11.02 am as if you owned it only to find a gang of Monkeyhangers had beat you to it ?
That was us. We met you two loads of times.
Probably about 1975. At the end of the game WBA came across the pitch to shake our hands but when we went down to the front to welcome them they turned nasty.

I I do remember that
Big black barmaid refused to serve me at first, thought I was too young. Really confused me as I was just 18 then & had spent the last 2 years getting ower the know ark ower

 

[Reiver]

It's no different to any other message board , read and hopefully learn something , reply in a constructive manner or don't comment at all or ultimately log off , it's your choice but try not to spoil the thread that others enjoy.

Thank you.

He's obviously trying his best to spoil the thread, 3 days chipping away like a spoilt bairn, and is now crying to the Mods ...... pathetic behaviour for an adult.

Despite various decent people asking him to allow them the right to dicuss their SAFC related memories he wants to dictate to everyone.

My position is absolutely crystal clear. I travelled to almost every Sunderland game in the 70's & 80's and at least a dozen a year even when I lived in the south of France. During the 'bad days' we went home & away from Mansfield as fanatical supporters and certainly not hooligans. I've never ever claimed to have been 'on the inside' as @FIVE is implying, I was there for the football not the fights.

But as 4 or 5 big lads travelling around you'd meet and become friends with lads like Frankie, Dave Fair's, Paddy etc and be caught up in bother. How could you not when you were driving down to Cardiff, Bristol, Spurs in the 70's and getting the train to Sheffield or Boro?

Most of my stories, on this thread and on the board, are 100% honest recollections of daft head shaving incidents, seeing other people fighting or running away

But occasionally there was nothing for it but to stand up for yourself, end of story.

The only 'glorifying' is in avoiding serious injury ........ which I'd imagine goes for most people on here.

The subject of this thread has nothing to do with the appearance of Five, Haway & Jardine .....
..... they've been following me around the board for years proclaiming how they're not following me around the board

 

[My Boy Harry]

yip thats it was an ok day no bother just banter good crack until the 2 lads got slashed badly in town by chelsea mood changed battles alover from 6 clock onwards ..a good day turned ugly with knifes the cowards ...that battle lasted hour at least en route to roker end with jocks cockneys sland folk hurt badly bad crack

I'm sure that one SAFC lad got stabbed in and around The Round Robin (?) that pub at the top of Pennywell, a couple of hundred yards from the probation office. Stands on the corner?

 

[brandon safc]

In fairness to some who post if you weren't there its sometimes hard to believe. Travelling from Durham I don't know a lot of the names but I've been in an around some of the incidents mentioned. Went to Chelsea 5 times and the quietest was the 92 cup game when we only got one window put out. The ones in the late 70's and 85 were frightening. The Charlton game which has been mentioned me mate saved a lad who was getting kicked into a drainage ditch Cola took three on to get him out. Had me nose broke at Man Utd when they ran past us at the crossroads and shoved a brick in my face. Most bizarre experience was at Arsenal the year we had an away bit set up for us but had to walk through the Arsenal fans to get there. Some of the smaller places also became hairy because of who we were. Getting caught at Luton when there wasn't many of us and having to dive over hedges to get out of the road and Scunthorpe in the mid 80's when two mini busses of us were ambushed as we were in a pub with about 100 waiting outside and a very frightening night in Worcester on the way back from Swansea I was just glad to get home alive.

I didn't start going till 1985 and didn't start going away till 1989. Travelling to the away games with the Durham and Sherburn bus they are some of the most loyal lads you'll ever meet. They always had your back no matter where we went.

 

[Vauxie]

I didn't start going till 1985 and didn't start going away till 1989. Travelling to the away games with the Durham and Sherburn bus they are some of the most loyal lads you'll ever meet. They always had your back no matter where we went.

Knew some skins from Brandon late 60's early 70"s,Eddie and Bewi they just disappeared

 

[Reiver]

Does anyone who went to the 'promotion party' match at Millmoor, Rotherham, remember a lad in dark glasses and a white stick?

 

[Vauxie]

Does anyone who went to the 'promotion party' match at Millmoor, Rotherham, remember a lad in dark glasses and a white stick?

Called Jack?

 

[Reiver]

Knew some skins from Brandon late 60's early 70"s,Eddie and Bewi they just disappeared

Isn't weird how some lads, who are always part if the scenery, just seem to vanish?

I ran into some lads in Covent Garden, the night before the Man City final who I'd not seen for years.

One was now a prison warder ....... talk about poacher turned gamekeeper.

P.S. no not Jack.

 

[Wakey ftm in Sussex]

Isn't weird how some lads, who are always part if the scenery, just seem to vanish?

I ran into some lads in Covent Garden, the night before the Man City final who I'd not seen for years.

One was now a prison warder ....... talk about poacher turned gamekeeper.

P.S. no not Jack.

I also think there may be many, like me, who did the every game thing, then life took over, family, career etc but again like me, can now find some time for going now & again.
During those sparse years I would pick & choose games, not so much the top ones but those where we might need all we can take & when we were struggling.

 

[Stevie]

I'm sure that one SAFC lad got stabbed in and around The Round Robin (?) that pub at the top of Pennywell, a couple of hundred yards from the probation office. Stands on the corner?

I don't know how to quote text as I'm a technoknacker but as a matter of pure pedantry the two lads did not get slashed by Chelsea fans.

They got slashed by a Rangers hooligan (initials DJ) who went on to subsequently die of a drugs overdose.

 

[Reiver]

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I also think there may be many, like me, who did the every game thing, then life took over, family, career etc but again like me, can now find some time for going now & again.
During those sparse years I would pick & choose games, not so much the top ones but those where we might need all we can take & when we were struggling.

Same here mate.

Over the last decade I've lived abroad and am now a 600 mile round trip to home games.

I usually only go to a few early on then go to most games at the 'business end' of the season.

I've been quite lucky this season with the Hull & Bournemouth games, Boro wasn't so good though.

I'm up for Spurs & Boro soon plus Palace & Watford then Leicester.

Hull away is the one I'll be targeting, that could be critical.

 

[TOONDOON]

Ive got the court appearances to back me up. Lots of money on solicitors and fines. I still have the friends and aquiantances........but they werent jolly times as portrayed on here as my post proves. To many wannabees painting pictures of themselves for glory. Leeds away, west ham and spurs were never a jolly ruck.......not when you were in them. Recounting the pain that was going on in the middle of the street is easy ......you werent in it. If you were you wouldnt be glorifying it and telling tall tales to other posters despite your username.
Theres many tales i could tell but they involve serious illegal activity and acts......those days are gone and football is the better for it.
Theres no glory on a train wondering if a friend is actuallt going to bleed to death or being unable to get to one who has a group around him stamping on his head.
Your sanitised glory days of a thick ear or fat lip did not exist......not at the games i attended that you profess to have been at.

I think you are missing the point. This has been a great read for a 59 year old SAFC fan who travelled with his mates home and away for 40 plus years. Like the majority on here we were just out for a laugh and a drink while following the lads. Never any hint of organised trouble over those years apart from Spurs in the Roker End. ( Different thread). We always tried to get a drink before the game, causing us to mix with home fans, I suppose in that sense we flirting with trouble but it was the way we were. Always stopped for a night out on the way back same problem different people. We were young and SAFC daft and shit happens. I dont think the majority of the posters are glorifying football violence they are looking back fondly on mates/days/times gone by. I still see my mates on aweekly bsaisand after 40 plus years we are very close. All our kidsand grandkids are SAFC and to me thatswhat its all about. To me no one in their right mind should set out to slash/, glass or seriously hurt someone else. A fat lip or a black eye being exchanged is acceptable and was part and parcel of away travel especially in the 70' s. Away games were always good, great memories and firm friends. I still skip down the street when I leave the house to travel to an away game. Best times of my life , this is the point of the thread.

 

[Wakey ftm in Sussex]

As I am a prostitute ( a name for being a Consultant - borrowed from Frankie W!) I often have to complete work projects so cannot always plan.

I've managed to get to Bournemouth ( thanks to Maximus), Southampton & QPR & am going to West Brom ( thanks to Maximus again).

Having lost my mam last year, I now don't have much family left in Yorks ( do have a SC holding cousin in Houghton) so can only look for certain dates to make the 670 miles for home games.

 

[Reiver]

I think you are missing the point. This has been a great read for a 59 year old SAFC fan who travelled with his mates home and away for 40 plus years. Like the majority on here we were just out for a laugh and a drink while following the lads. Never any hint of organised trouble over those years apart from Spurs in the Roker End. ( Different thread). We always tried to get a drink before the game, causing us to mix with home fans, I suppose in that sense we flirting with trouble but it was the way we were. Always stopped for a night out on the way back same problem different people. We were young and SAFC daft and shit happens. I dont think the majority of the posters are glorifying football violence they are looking back fondly on mates/days/times gone by. I still see my mates on aweekly bsaisand after 40 plus years we are very close. All our kidsand grandkids are SAFC and to me thatswhat its all about. To me no one in their right mind should set out to slash/, glass or seriously hurt someone else. A fat lip or a black eye being exchanged is acceptable and was part and parcel of away travel especially in the 70' s. Away games were always good, great memories and firm friends. I still skip down the street when I leave the house to travel to an away game. Best times of my life , this is the point of the thread.

Post of the thread by a mile.

Surely no one can disagree with a single word, sums up my feelings 100%

 

[nandos sonic sauce]

I don't know how to quote text as I'm a technoknacker but as a matter of pure pedantry the two lads did not get slashed by Chelsea fans.

They got slashed by a Rangers hooligan (initials DJ) who went on to subsequently die of a drugs overdose.

Good

 

[Headingley Slog Fest]

Davey Dowell smashing the Penta Hotel Heathrows mixing desk up, falling over it dancing to Nelly the Elephant before the Milk Cup Final.

Legend

 

[Deleted member 6830]

What you witnessed and say you got involved in , is similar in many ways to many others on here have posted as their recollections of what was a very violent part of our cultural history.

Mods and rockers , Teddy Boys , Skinheads and hippies , football hooligans , the casual culture , the list is endless , do you want all those erased from history as well ?

It's no different to any other message board , read and hopefully learn something , reply in a constructive manner or don't comment at all or ultimately log off , it's your choice but try not to spoil the thread that others enjoy.

Thank you.

The Brits have always liked fighting, look at our history.
Feckin hell man, in 1066, Harold and the lads marched from London to York and sent the Vikings packing (400 ships came over, 24 went back) and a few days later, he marched down to Hastings and fought old Willy and his mercenary army.
Had it just been Normans, he'd have knacked them, but Willy "bought" French, Breton, Flemish and Italian assistance the cheating bassa

 

[Headingley Slog Fest]

Met a lad going down from Durham to West Ham for the Championship winning night and the tube in front broke down and ours couldn't get past, he got us there by hijacking this lad and his white transit van, there was 9 of us in the back along with a shit load of scaffolding and shite. Got to the game 15 minutes late but would never have got there if this lad never ran down the street stopping traffic.

Never seen him since