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Moyes OUT!!!

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Our players, on paper, are better than Burnley's.

Their team clearly play for their manager and follow his instructions. Ours, evidently, do not.

Sack him.
I often think our players on paper aren't that bad but my neutral friends talk about our team like it is shit. I think they have a better unbiased view than me tbh, we have seen how they can be good maybe 1 in 5 games where as others see their average performances, and clearly the average performance of dogshit is more realistic than the one good game of decent level
 
They also have stuck with the manager through a relegation and he's been there 4 and a half years. The penny will drop with you eventually that sacking managers is not the answer.
Dyche and Burnley & Moyes and Sunderland are totally different senarios though.
 
Shocking today players couldn't even control a ball let alone pass a ball to each other
 
HE BOUGHT HALF OF THEM.
He bought half of our 23 man squad did he? Was he given sufficient money? You still haven't mentioned who has been working with worse players since August?! If he's had the worst players to work with, and isn't bottom then surely he's got the maximum out of the lads he has
 
What's your solution then?
At the moment I don't know. I would have sacked Moyes and got Allardyce back in, but now he's gone to Palace that's a non starter.

I don't accept that "sacking the manager isn't the answer" though. If he's not performing then he'll have to go eventually. I don't think we should stick with him no matter what, in the hope he eventually gets it right. If there's even the smallest chance a change of management could keep us up, we need to take it. It may not be the answer long term, but we need to save ourselves in the short term first and foremost.
 
He had a squad of 16 (sixteen ffs) and had five weeks to get players in and with an owner pulling in the purse strings (hence he went for kids he knew of, loans and deals where we could agree a load of installments)

So what you're saying is that he isn't very good at spotting talent? Stop making excuses for him, BSA would have had us mid table, even with the dog shit Moyes has brought in.

He bought half of our 23 man squad did he? Was he given sufficient money? You still haven't mentioned who has been working with worse players since August?! If he's had the worst players to work with, and isn't bottom then surely he's got the maximum out of the lads he has

See my reply to @dangermows .
 
At the moment I don't know. I would have sacked Moyes and got Allardyce back in, but now he's gone to Palace that's a non starter.

I don't accept that "sacking the manager isn't the answer" though. If he's not performing then he'll have to go eventually. I don't think we should stick with him no matter what, in the hope he eventually gets it right. If there's even the smallest chance a change of management could keep us up, we need to take it. It may not be the answer long term, but we need to save ourselves in the short term first and foremost.

It's the same thing every season though, you can't just keep sacking managers every 5/6 months, that's a big reason why we are in financial meltdown, paying out millions to pay up managers contracts. I don't think there is any chance of Moyes being sacked personally, he is more likely to resign by end of January due to the false promises he was given by Short.
 
He didn't though did he? Ten installments, which suits the shithead owner and is why we didn't get Mvila (wanted it all upfront)

You do realise thats how all transfer transactions works dont you? Man Utd didnt really hand over a £96m cheque to Juventus for Paul Pogba. But the reported fees are generally the amounts owed by one club to another. You make out the N Dong fee & transfer sound out of the norm. In reality we owe Llorient £13 million however much the instalment plan is arranged.
 
It's the same, you can't just keep sacking managers every 5/6 months, that's a big reason why we are in financial meltdown, paying out millions to pay up managers contracts. I don't think there is any chance of Moyes being sacked personally, he is more likely to resign by end of January due to the false promises he was given by Short.
we don't.

The reason we're in financial meltdown is we spend millions on shit players who them leave for much less than we paid for them. Admittedly that's partly down to manager turnover. The thing is, because of the financial situation it is even more important we remain in the premier league, even if it is at the expense of "managerial stability".
 
He had a squad of 16 (sixteen ffs) and had five weeks to get players in and with an owner pulling in the purse strings (hence he went for kids he knew of, loans and deals where we could agree a load of installments)
This is the truth. I don't often feel sorry for millionaires involved in football, but if I have sympathy for Moyes. No way Sam would have put up with it beyond the summer
 
Shocking today players couldn't even control a ball let alone pass a ball to each other
it's not just today though, the passsing out from the back and midfield has been honking all year
 
How much longer do we have to put up with dour twat?

Burnley....f***ing Burnley.
Swansea...
Etc.

What does he do with them in training?!
Am sticking with Moyes you can see he f***ing fuming at the shit displays had them back all for training twice a day its the players no manger
Going to touch this club everybody got opinions
But those who think Larson is decent need to take up netball he miles behind the game can't pass can't tackle can't run and when he does run flaps his arms like trying to get airborne we need a good clear out and new owners that invest in Moyes that the only way
 
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