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Rafael Benítez

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He was brought in with one task which was to save them from relegation, he didn't. They will be bookies favourites for promotion pre-season and the overwhelming numbers of fans polled by the chronicle expect them to stroll the league at the first time of asking, whether this happens remains to be seen but one thing's for certain, if they don't he'll be shown the door. Ashley won't bankroll another attempt with a blank cheque in 2017/18 so I pity Benitezs successor if it comes to pass. In the meantime I look forward to the certainty of Premiership football next season and not ifs, buts and maybes.
 
The Fish said:
I've addressed this line a lot on here. Benitez GpG is better than Di Canio, Allardyce and only nominally worse than Advocaat. But in isolation that doesn't tell the whole story, about what Allardyce inherited, what the 15/16 league was like. But I fear you're underestimating the size of the job Benitez took on.

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I think that if money was the only motivator he'd have fucked off to Saudi Arabia, or China, or Russia and swam in his money pile, Scrooge McDuck style.
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Newcastle had to play:
Leicester away
Sunderland at home
Norwich away
Southampton away
Swansea at home
Man City at home
Liverpool away
Palace at home
Aston Villa away
Tottenham at home

From those games, they took 13 points.

However, look at where the wins came - Swansea at home, Palace at home, Spurs at home (after relegation was already confirmed). Swansea at home and Palace at home are expected 6 points. He didn't win games against Sunderland and Villa and lost away to Norwich. They're the unforgivable results. I don't think winning a meaningless game at the end of the season against a significantly weakened Spurs side who had already lost the title makes up for that.

Points per game is all well and good, but not coping in big pressure games cant be a good thing - there is a lot of pressure for you to win in each game next season....
 
The Fish said:
I've addressed this line a lot on here. Benitez GpG is better than Di Canio, Allardyce and only nominally worse than Advocaat. But in isolation that doesn't tell the whole story, about what Allardyce inherited, what the 15/16 league was like. But I fear you're underestimating the size of the job Benitez took on.

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I've read some shite posted on here but this tops the lot, your lot couldn't beat Villa and as it happens even if you did you would have still be relegated. Also if you think that you are going to piss the Championship you are in for the shock of your f***ing life, now jog on!
 
Billy2Sheds said:
OMG. I'll spit on Solano, the little Peruvian trickster that he is


EVERY Newcastle fan wanted Robson out. Hounded iirc
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Of course they didn't but there were plenty who did. I remember the phone in's regarding 'lost the plot' and 'lost the dressing room'. Surely you aren't denying that there were plenty of Newcastle fans who wanted Bobby out. Obviously it wasn't the 25K who want Pardieu out but still a sizeable number.
 
The Fish said:
Yeah he definitely wants to stay local to the home he's set up with his family near the Wirral. He is being paid handsomely, however I think it's churlish to say that Benitez wouldn't have had his head turned by the outpouring of affection. Some of the rhetoric is obviously playing to the choir, but I honestly do think he would have walked, despite the money being offered, had he not felt any affection for the club.


Are you saying Newcastle United don't have a global brand?
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Be careful for what you wish for marra. There was people willing to suck Advocaats cock for him to stay and look how that panned out.
 
Legend said:
Newcastle had to play:
Leicester away
Sunderland at home
Norwich away
Southampton away
Swansea at home
Man City at home
Liverpool away
Palace at home
Aston Villa away
Tottenham at home

From those games, they took 13 points.

However, look at where the wins came - Swansea at home, Palace at home, Spurs at home (after relegation was already confirmed). Swansea at home and Palace at home are expected 6 points. He didn't win games against Sunderland and Villa and lost away to Norwich. They're the unforgivable results. I don't think winning a meaningless game at the end of the season against a significantly weakened Spurs side who had already lost the title makes up for that.

Points per game is all well and good, but not coping in big pressure games cant be a good thing - there is a lot of pressure for you to win in each game next season....
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That's exactly it. Bang on the money.

Also, it appears that Rafa will be doing the commute to Newcastle from the Wirral. Dangerous that, some days, will just let the coaches Craic on. Didn't exactly work for MON.
 
Legend said:
Newcastle had to play:
Leicester away
Sunderland at home
Norwich away
Southampton away
Swansea at home
Man City at home
Liverpool away
Palace at home
Aston Villa away
Tottenham at home

From those games, they took 13 points.

However, look at where the wins came - Swansea at home, Palace at home, Spurs at home (after relegation was already confirmed). Swansea at home and Palace at home are expected 6 points. He didn't win games against Sunderland and Villa and lost away to Norwich. They're the unforgivable results. I don't think winning a meaningless game at the end of the season against a significantly weakened Spurs side who had already lost the title makes up for that.

Points per game is all well and good, but not coping in big pressure games cant be a good thing - there is a lot of pressure for you to win in each game next season....
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And palace missed a penalty
 
arthursboy said:
Wash your f***ing mouth out, Bobby Robson, hounded out your having a laugh
This is the bloke who was treat like god at the Toon, could do nowt wrong,

Oh no sorry that's right he was sacked, only when he was dying was he tret different and revered as a hero.
2 faced twats
(Canny bloke mind)
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I'll say this again about Robson - it was a well known fact that at the end of his last full season in charge, certain players were refusing to play for him. He had lost a lot of the dressing room because he couldn't handle certain players. I know that for a fact. At the beginning of the next season, we'd got off to a bad start, and some fans thought he should move upstairs, but a hell of a lot of fans thought he should carry on, myself included.
Shepard and co clearly knew there wasn't something right, and sacked him, which was a f***ing disgrace, especially the way they done it. What is said on here, and is now clearly fact, is that he was 'hounded out'. At the time we were playing shit at the start of the season and fans, as they do, booed the team off a few times. Now, if that constitutes 'hounding out' a manager, the O'Neill got hounded out after 45 minutes in his first game in charge of you, Pochettino got hounded out when we beat them away earlier in the season after being unbeaten in about 17 games, and Aresenal, Chelsea etc must be constantly hounding out their managers
 
Apparently, the world is "awaiting confirmation" that Rafa has committed to 3 more years at Sid James's Park. TalkShite at 17:04.
Still not definitive.
Still not sined.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
Of course they didn't but there were plenty who did. I remember the phone in's regarding 'lost the plot' and 'lost the dressing room'. Surely you aren't denying that there were plenty of Newcastle fans who wanted Bobby out. Obviously it wasn't the 25K who want Pardieu out but still a sizeable number.
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See my last post.
 
I don't get how they hated Big Sam and Pardew so much, even though they both kept them up and had some reasonable finishes, yet Rafa gets them relegated and he is elevated to pre-gobbing Bobby Robson status.
 
Billy2Sheds said:
I'll say this again about Robson - it was a well known fact that at the end of his last full season in charge, certain players were refusing to play for him. He had lost a lot of the dressing room because he couldn't handle certain players. I know that for a fact. At the beginning of the next season, we'd got off to a bad start, and some fans thought he should move upstairs, but a hell of a lot of fans thought he should carry on, myself included.
Shepard and co clearly knew there wasn't something right, and sacked him, which was a f***ing disgrace, especially the way they done it. What is said on here, and is now clearly fact, is that he was 'hounded out'. At the time we were playing shit at the start of the season and fans, as they do, booed the team off a few times. Now, if that constitutes 'hounding out' a manager, the O'Neill got hounded out after 45 minutes in his first game in charge of you, Pochettino got hounded out when we beat them away earlier in the season after being unbeaten in about 17 games, and Aresenal, Chelsea etc must be constantly hounding out their managers
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What about the blokes who spat on him?
 
WackyJackyO said:
Apparently, the world is "awaiting confirmation" that Rafa has committed to 3 more years at Sid James's Park. TalkShite at 17:04.
Still not definitive.
Still not sined.
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Would piss me pants if he was unable to come to an agreement over something really trivial this afternoon and it was all off :lol:.
Don't think it will be like so I'm just going to let them get on with it, it's like they are blinded, they won't even accept rational arguements. Still the higher you climb the harder you fall.
 
Newcastle should have won at Aston Villa. Rafa didn't have the team playing that day. If they won - they would have relegated us.

Not much more to discuss is there.
 
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