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Rafael Benítez

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The Fish said:
I think that if money was the only motivator he'd have fucked off to Saudi Arabia, or China, or Russia and swam in his money pile, Scrooge McDuck style.
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I don't think money is the only motivator, but I think Newcastle are the only club in Europe willing to pay him £5M a year, and I assume he wants to stay in Europe and more specifically England.
 
TerrysChippie said:
Just been to the bookies next door and was chatting to Shirley, (She has come out of retirement and works back there now, 2 days a week, (3 days if Stan is on holiday).

Anyway, we were talking about the mags and that and she looked up that Rafa is 16/1 to be the first manager sacked next season, could be worth a few ££, especially if they lose their first few matches.

Anyone fancy a flutter?
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He won't be sacked. If he leaves it'll be on his accord so I wouldn't put any money on first sacked manager, first manager to leave, maybe
 
Jardin said:
The trouble with those stats is that if you compare points per game over the same 10 opponents then McClaren actually got 1.1 ppg. The 10 games of Benitez at 1.3 ppg could easily have dropped below 1 over the 18 additional games played. The ppg when compared over different lengths or against different opponents is meaningless.
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Yeah.....say one manager had 3 of his ten games against other relegation contenders, then surely he'd get at least one win to boost his.....oh. Nevermind.
 
rowley2 said:
There is nothing about the type of football played in the Championship that should bother him particularly, there are in fact a fair range of styles played there.

The problem might come with the relentless nature of the league. Eight games more doesn't sound much but every player and manager who has ever operated there always remark on the toll it takes. It might not bother him at all, or any of the players, but it might.

There is also the fact that he and his team will be , along with Villa, the team to beat, home and away. A fair few of these games will feel like cup ties, held at smaller grounds than the two teams are used to. This has taken a few teams by surprise before, especially if the attitude is not absolutely bang on.

Promotion is rarely easy. Usually because if you drop it is because the team is little or not at all better than the top end of the Championship; three teams almost never go back up and three teams almost never go straight back down.


It will all turn , as usual, on recruitment as that team looks to lack players who can handle pressure.

I'm bored and connected to tinternet at work.
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Good post.

I think the team that played 28 games under McClaren were bereft of confidence, but the team that emerged under Rafa certainly had more in the way of cojones. Lascelles, Townsend, Mad-Mitrovic and even Sissoko seemed to find a set for the last few home games.

We'll need to address key weaknesses in the squad, but we've money to spend, and once a few go, we'll have more. I'm confident of promotion with or without Benitez at the helm.

Mary Hinge said:
Fatty had 9 games to save your £100m squad and fooked it up, shouts a lot on the touch line and u mugs confuse that with ability, thick as fookin mince....

Did u hob on Hughton as well?
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The Fish said:
This will be fun;

Newcastle should be an easy club to get right. They've got the resources, infrastructure and global "brand" already. With the right approach and the right support from the moneymen, Benitez should be able to get us back into the Premier League, establish us as a stable club once more and make more of a go of the cups than we have done in the past 9 years. He can build a legacy, something that he'd probably not have license to do at other clubs.

The term sleeping giant is tossed around a lot and for clubs like Newcastle and Villa (and yes, yourselves) it's mismanagement rather than a lack of potential that's stopped them from waking up. You'll know yourselves that the wrong decision can wipe any progress you were making quicker than you can blink. We had a decent side, but rather than strengthen and turn a one off 5th into a consistent 7-8th, they fucked it up and turned a one off 5th into a consistent 15-18th.
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If you replace the word should with could in the second line then there is little wrong with what you have said. I think the issue is though that you are ignoring the 7 or 8 other clubs who are trying to do the same. Some of those are as well placed to do so. This managerial appointment can only be described as a positive but what happens next is much more important. It may go right but there is lots that can go wrong.
 
The Fish said:
This will be fun;

Newcastle should be an easy club to get right. They've got the resources, infrastructure and global "brand" already. With the right approach and the right support from the moneymen, Benitez should be able to get us back into the Premier League, establish us as a stable club once more and make more of a go of the cups than we have done in the past 9 years. He can build a legacy, something that he'd probably not have license to do at other clubs.

The term sleeping giant is tossed around a lot and for clubs like Newcastle and Villa (and yes, yourselves) it's mismanagement rather than a lack of potential that's stopped them from waking up. You'll know yourselves that the wrong decision can wipe any progress you were making quicker than you can blink. We had a decent side, but rather than strengthen and turn a one off 5th into a consistent 7-8th, they fucked it up and turned a one off 5th into a consistent 15-18th.
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:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
WHD said:
I don't think money is the only motivator, but I think Newcastle are the only club in Europe willing to pay him £5M a year, and I assume he wants to stay in Europe and more specifically England.
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Yeah he definitely wants to stay local to the home he's set up with his family near the Wirral. He is being paid handsomely, however I think it's churlish to say that Benitez wouldn't have had his head turned by the outpouring of affection. Some of the rhetoric is obviously playing to the choir, but I honestly do think he would have walked, despite the money being offered, had he not felt any affection for the club.

Ale taster said:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
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Are you saying Newcastle United don't have a global brand?
 
The Fish said:
Yeah he definitely wants to stay local to the home he's set up with his family near the Wirral. He is being paid handsomely, however I think it's churlish to say that Benitez wouldn't have had his head turned by the outpouring of affection. Some of the rhetoric is obviously playing to the choir, but I honestly do think he would have walked, despite the money being offered, had he not felt any affection for the club.
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Or as Luke Edwards puts it if a premier league team had come in for him,

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WackyJackyO said:
Where has this happened, please? Definitively?
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Came up as confirmed on my OneFootball app on the phone. No idea where they get their info from but they really wait until after the event before putting anything as confirmed normally. They put it as confirmed at 13:15pm today.
 
Rafa "Ever closer" to 3 more years at Sid James's Park. TalkShite at 16:02.
Still not definitive.
Still not sined.
 
The guy can't loose.

Stick in a £5 million sacking clause and a "bigger club" release clause, then just sit back and enjoy.

Can't see the top talent (what there is) hanging around and it'll be a bun fight for decent Championship players. Add to that the fact that sustaining 30 lads on £60k a week in that league is expensive and add again Rafa's wages which must be a few million and the whole thing will be burning a hole in Ashleys pocket.

I reckon it'll cost £100 million a year to sustain and without premiership money it's a big ask.

Sports Direct will probably have to end the 70% off sale.
 
Global brand :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Aye mate, you can't move for Mitrovic shirts in downtown Bangkok like. When you get off the plane in Tokyo all they ask about is Arran SHEERA and Rob Ree
 
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