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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Sweeper said:
It's not a rumour - a senior QC and a police officer said it in court. The lead investigator said it today. It's unrefuted by the Club. It happened. Accept it.
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If it is true then I expect a huge change in our top management within the week.
Also I'd expect a lot of inspectors to be losing jobs as sharing information before a case is illeagal and someone in their position is abusing the law.
However I expect most have this has come from Johnson saying it in court and there is no real evidence
 
prehab26 said:
It's a chief person involved in the case confirming that our CEO was aware.

People can not just use the AJ is a liar line anymore. Big news IMO.
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Yeah this is huge news, it basically reveals that Byrne was FULLY aware of all allegations and all evidence proving beyond any doubt that Johnson was guilty.
 
Even if I was inclined to believe she knew, bearing in mind she allegedly found out on 4th May, two weeks before the season ended and the trial was, at the time scheduled for August, knowing he was going to prison because she knew what he'd done, why not sack him then. Quite easy to do so, end of the season save his wages, buy someone else.
Even if they'd wanted him to play the last couple of games they could have sacked him then saying and used the excuse that between 4th May and the end of the season they'd been considering the information and taking legal advice.
I dont know the answer but I do know the trial was originally scheduled for August. I wish to God it had happened then
 
peil said:
Bonus are not seen as guarenteed wages. If he was dropped from the team because a manager didn't like him then he'd lose out on the bonuses, but couldn't do anything about it till they touched his contracted wages. Same applies in any other business.
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I get that but if AJ was found not guilty then he could drag the club through all sorts of courts and do a lot of damage. Not to mention the future of the club with players thinking we would turn our backs on them instantly
 
Breaking News: There is no breaking news just sensationalism of the worst kind. Leaving this thread for a while until everyone calms down.

Some people actually seem excited by the prospect that Byrne knew all about this and did nothing. Very sad.
 
Doberman said:
no but with what they knew, they did not have to play him.
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They also didn't have to suspend him which was the outcome of legal advice,PFA involvement and the 'word' of Johnson that he was going to fight all the charges,the club showed loyalty to an employee and in return were betrayed,it all may seem a bit naive now but hindsight and all that.
 
hexhamali said:
Yeah this is huge news, it basically reveals that Byrne was FULLY aware of all allegations and all evidence proving beyond any doubt that Johnson was guilty.
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It's not a coincidence the club have failed to deny such an allegation and continue to ignore it. They would respond with disgust and refute it in the strongest possible terms if this wasn't true.
 
Tadger said:
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Make of this what you will.
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I make of it that this adds nothing to what we already knew and the journalist is deliberating attempting to mislead people into interpreting that meeting as proof that Byrne was informed of all of the evidence against him.

Det Insp Sampson was clear in her evidence in court that the meeting was to inform the club of the allegations and discuss safeguarding measures, not to discuss details of the case
 
haway said:
HOW CAN A POST THAT SAYS 'MARGARET BYRNE IS NOT A CRIMINAL LAWYER' BE THE BEST POST IN THIS THREAD, WHEN THAT IS THE ONE AND ONLY JOB SHE HELD BEFORE JOINING SAFC, AND WHAT SHE DID HER DEGREE IN?

Edit:- It is literally the one f***ing qualification she has, a law degree.
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Having a law degree and being a criminal lawyer are not the same thing - the former is a generic qualification, the latter is a speciality; you wouldn't want a GP to carry out a heart transplant, yet both the GP and the heart surgeon would be qualified doctors, and it is the same with the law. QCs for example are only specialist in one aspect of law, so how we can expect Margaret Byrne (and I am not her biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination) can be expected to adjudicate on whatever information she had and determine that it constituted a sackable offence, before the matter went to court I do not know.
 
safcforever said:
If it is true then I expect a huge change in our top management within the week.
Also I'd expect a lot of inspectors to be losing jobs as sharing information before a case is illeagal and someone in their position is abusing the law.
However I expect most have this has come from Johnson saying it in court and there is no real evidence
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Are you actually paying attention to anything that is going on? Johnson and his barrister involved the club, they gave the club the police interview transcript and the 836 whatsapp messages. The senior copper had a meeting with Byrne, in which Byrne was told he had messaged and kissed her. Clearly, the police would know what they can and cannot tell various people.
 
safcforever said:
I get that but if AJ was found not guilty then he could drag the club through all sorts of courts and do a lot of damage. Not to mention the future of the club with players thinking we would turn our backs on them instantly
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If he was suspended on full contractual pay he wouldn't have had any case at all - bonuses are a side issue and can be witheld for multiple reasons.
 
Sweeper said:
Are you actually paying attention to anything that is going on? Johnson and his barrister involved the club, they gave the club the police interview transcript and the 836 whatsapp messages. The senior copper had a meeting with Byrne, in which Byrne was told he had messaged and kissed her. Clearly, the police would know what they can and cannot tell various people.
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So why was he still pleading not guilty?
I smell bullshit
 
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