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Ashes 2nd test thread - Lords

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Waste of a place is Bresnan.

Would have rather left Finn in or given Onions a start.

Exactly. Bresnan's 30-odd runs in the match will not win the game for England. You need to take 20 wickets and having the right wicket-taking bowlers is even more important when you only have 4 of them.
 
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Nah, more just say it as i see it rather and know that the test version of the game is a long stretch (whereas some think a couple of early wickets or a couple of batsmen getting out cheaply means its game over and everyone is shite).

I reckon 330 is a decent score when you have an attack like ours against a batting line up like theirs (two big last wicket stands made them look much better than they actually are imo).

Their batting line up has recorded a better innings total than ours by an average of a hundred for a year though. It's nothing incredible but it is at present statistically better than ours.
 
Their batting line up has recorded a better innings total than ours by an average of a hundred for a year though. It's nothing incredible but it is at present statistically better than ours.

Comparing the two top 6's we piss it for quality. As I said, barring two freak last wicket stands we have blown them away thus far.
 
Their batting line up has recorded a better innings total than ours by an average of a hundred for a year though. It's nothing incredible but it is at present statistically better than ours.

Yes and we beat them last test :roll:
 
Their batting line up has recorded a better innings total than ours by an average of a hundred for a year though. It's nothing incredible but it is at present statistically better than ours.

how can we have statistically worse our averages are better and 3 of there batters have not been playing for them loads recently
 
Comparing the two top 6's we piss it for quality. As I said, barring two freak last wicket stands we have blown them away thus far.

Our top 6's from 2005 and 2009 piss all over the current one, unfortunately. Far too often the middle and lower order are coming into pressure situations because the top order haven't delivered.
 
Our top 6's from 2005 and 2009 piss all over the current one, unfortunately. Far too often the middle and lower order are coming into pressure situations because the top order haven't delivered.

And the Aussies attack from 2005 pisses all over this one, Thats not the comparison though. And Cook has set up flatforms for the rest countless times.
 
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Our top 6's from 2005 and 2009 piss all over the current one, unfortunately. Far too often the middle and lower order are coming into pressure situations because the top order haven't delivered.

This. There's no doubt on their day our top 6 are far better but England have been relying on one or two to salvage the whole batting line up f***ing it up for a while now.

All I'm saying is, like I was before the series, it's going to be close and that the two teams are closer than a lot of England fans would like to think, we're nowhere near as clinical and dangerous as we were last series and Australia have more to them this time as well. It's not like the last Test didn't make it pretty obvious.

A really good team might occasionally give most of their wickets away on a track like this but for the most part they'd be dominating. England have batted like this reliably since the last series. Unlike in 2011 the attack has to save the game rather than smash home the advantage.
 
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