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wicketkeeper said:
I am saying what I have said - apart from the odd obvious decision when we have been lucky I don't hear Sunderland fans coming out with crap like the ref should have given more fouls against us.

Not unless they are trying to be deliberately contrary.
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Well you wouldn't would you don't imagine many fans coming out of home ground saying their team should have got fouls against them,but at the same time,the ones that do are probably more objective and as such their opinion holds more sway IMO.

Laidback Jack said:
All refs are shite. Move on.
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Why do you think that,is it built into their DNA,or is it the fact that the job is too difficult for the human eye alone.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
Well you wouldn't would you don't imagine many fans coming out of home ground saying their team should have got fouls against them,but at the same time,the ones that do are probably more objective and as such their opinion holds more sway IMO.



Why do you think that,is it built into their DNA,or is it the fact that the job is too difficult for the human eye alone.
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No they wouldn't that's my point. No proper supporter would ever say the ref should have given more fouls against st us. Imagine it.

Reporter: well what did you think of the game today.
Fan: well it was great we won but the ref should have given more fouls against us. - weird:)

Don't know about their opinion holding moe sway - more like showing the signs to be certified.
 
wicketkeeper said:
No they wouldn't that's my point. No proper supporter would ever say the ref should have given more fouls against st us. Imagine it.

Reporter: well what did you think of the game today.
Fan: well it was great we won but the ref should have given more fouls against us. - weird:)

Don't know about their opinion holding moe sway - more like showing the signs to be certified.
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So then if all proper supporters are biased like your good self,I will gladly never take your opinion on a Sunderland incident seriously ever again,because you have basically said you would never admit a ref should have given more fouls against us even if it was true.
 
Voice of fair play said:
So then if all proper supporters are biased like your good self,I will gladly never take your opinion on a Sunderland incident seriously ever again,because you have basically said you would never admit a ref should have given more fouls against us even if it was true.
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That is ni what I said. Obviously if you asked about a decision you give an honest view but no fan would ever come out and say the ref should have given more fouls against us. It is a stupid thing to say
 
wicketkeeper said:
That is ni what I said. Obviously if you asked about a decision you give an honest view but no fan would ever come out and say the ref should have given more fouls against us. It is a stupid thing to say
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How is it stupid to say a ref should have given more fouls against us,if that's what you geniunely think?

So if you give your honest view about a decision/foul and that honest decision is that it should go against us,thats ok?

But over a course of a match to say a ref should have gave more fouls against us is stupid? canny logic that mind!
 
Voice of fair play said:
I am just off the opinion for a ref to purposely give a decision against a certain team,they would have to be a valid reason like a bribe of some thought,and seen as that is highly unlikely, common sense tells me they isn't a good reason,and the fact that not one single person has come up with a sensible one yet.
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You need to lighten up, mate. ;)

hank williams said:
Ha same Howard Webb who booked the same player twice but never sent him off ;)
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Webb gave the pen on BT, like. Just saying...
 
1. Denied us a pen in 1st half for a handball
2. Foul on Kirchhoff not given
3. Foul on Rodwell near NW corner not given
4. Rooney handball in their box (another pen to us) not given
5. 2 fouls on Defoe not given
On the verge of cheating IMHO.
 
LineMonkey said:
1. Denied us a pen in 1st half for a handball
2. Foul on Kirchhoff not given
3. Foul on Rodwell near NW corner not given
4. Rooney handball in their box (another pen to us) not given
5. 2 fouls on Defoe not given
On the verge of cheating IMHO.
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could argue the penna claims were cancelled out with a similar claim against us--I ask for consistency and we got that today with positioning of arms imo
Agree with your other points tho and will also add the block on Khazri first half anarl when he would have been away into space!
 
Voice of fair play said:
I fine marra :D, just like a good old debate me,helps the time go by and enjoy it if I am honest.

I am like you I hate no one,that's why I can't understand somebody saying a ref despises us for just giving honest decisions rightly or wrongly.
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Andre Marriner consistently doesn't give justifiable decisions in our favour though.... game after game.
He has an agenda against SAFC and is a cheat.

redandwhiterob said:
Easy game to ref when you have access to slow motion replays mate
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All of those decisions I called in real-time
 
Was this a penna when Ola's blocks Rooney's run and then with his left hand (out of view in this gif) grabbed Rooney's shirt and pulls it halfway up his back and then held him down by it so Rooney was clueless as to where the ball was?

Of course not as it's Ola on Rooney :lol: The beauty is that Marriner watched the block but looks away briefly but still sees most of Rooney getting ragged down :lol:

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Why do I get the feeling it should have been a penna if it was Defoe who got blatanly blocked and then his shirt pulled to hold his head down ;)

If Marriner hates us so much then he could have easily given a penna for that. We won so gerrin ya bassas and stop looking at dubious decisions as we also get them in our favour now and then :cool:
 
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