Horatio Pugwash
Striker
Not in my experience, bullying and harassment hasn't got the paranoia surrounding it that racism has
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Cowvahlo
Guest
Don't know anything about it mate tbh.
Where is the assumption coming from that accusations of racism will be dealt with without rigorous investigation based on the evidence? And if that's happened, why is the concern people have about how those nasty effnicks have ruined everything, instead of the fact that some places are making decisions without conducting proper investigations?
The evidence is just what someone said though, isn't it? That's what we're discussing here, a comment that was overheard, reported and then someone losing their job. That's what appears to have happened here:
I displayed concern for the decisions made by employers here:
Edinburgh Black Cat
Striker
If you like. I don't buy the whole "blackboard was banned" nonsense.
It's too much of a coincidence that the phrase disappeared around the time computer/projector use became common.
EDIT: I can see why the ba ba ba black sheep song would be discouraged.
Horatio Pugwash
Striker
It's quite obviously f***ing racist to black sheep you gibbering idiot. Why do you think there are such issues of race amongst sheep?
Edinburgh Black Cat
Striker
It focuses on the black sheep being the odd one out and thus unusual.
Now sing that to a class of 4 years with 20 white kids and 1 black and it'll get them thinking.
Don't get me wrong, it's not racist but it sends the wrong message to kids.
What if they see a black sheep in a field though...won't that have the same effect?
Children are already f***ing experts at seeing who or what is different though. Mercilessly so.
Horatio Pugwash
Striker
I doubt the kids would even give it a second thought.
until some "well meaning" grown up pointed out the underlying message which could possibly be extracted from it and the dangers to society it contains (if they look hard enough of course)
Black people don't give a shit about people singing baa baa black sheep.
Is the issue that referring to half caste kids is in the opinion of Red and White Baron (a very fair minded man who doesn't hate anyone different at all) excessive, or is the issue that there was no proof. You're assuming a lot.
Horatio Pugwash
Striker
I'm sure they dont bud.
Its the fckwits looking for problems that aren't there that have an attack of the vapours when they hear it
Good, then you'll be steering clear of red and white baron's agenda that there is no racism by white people towards black people, there is nothing particularly difficult about being black in the UK (in fact everything is now loaded in their favour) and any problems black people have in this country is because they're all in gangs and stabbing each other.
Red N White Baron
Striker
The life I have, and the life I provide my family, is almost entirely because I'm white and a bloke.
I'm so lucky.
Summed it up fairly and succinctly.
safcroker
Midfield
Is it deemed racist to refer to someone as a black person do you think when trying to describe who you're talking about if you don't know their name etc? Don't know why but it always seems like an awkward one to me.
No marra I just not a fan of people losing their jobs over what someone has said with no proof as appears to be the case
I abhor racism in all forms, if someone is proven to have been racist I've got no issue with their disciplinary dismissal or legal case depending
No! Ffs
Horatio Pugwash
Striker
I think you can say black now but not coloured
isn't that where cumberbatch got mixed up?
or did I get that the wrong way round?
safcroker
Midfield
I thought not but didn't know if the argument would be that if the person was white, you typically would describe them first by height, hair color etc and not on colour
I was just unsure when describing an individual person, and not a group as a whole as he was. But yes my understanding is coloured is a no go and has been for a long time now
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