Glenn Whelan linked
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DPTT
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That happens everywhere though. The standard of player we go for are pretty much the same standard most clubs of our position go for as well, and ultimately most are of the same standard. I always say most managers get lucky with signings, players who end up comfortable in a certain system with certain players and that's how clubs maybe good for a couple of seasons but can't keep it together as the manager had no idea how he did it in the first place. Glenn Whelan does not look anywhere like a
Poyet style player, if this is the system he is going to keep.
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Has anyone watched him in great detail? Strengths, weaknesses, how he could fit into our side and in whose place?
No, thought not.
No, thought not.
deleted user 785
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Strengths. He works hard and can play a simple pass
Weaknesses. He's slower than slow and a sly dirty bastard with it.
One of Cattermole, Larsson or t'other central midfielder.
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Lord Alfred
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So a player who has been good enough to play in a side that has finished above us for the last few seasons isn't actually good enough for us?
Perhaps he should change his name to something like Gyan Willian ey! That would pull the wool over the eyes of many (jordi Gomez anyone).
I think you know what the gist of people's comments are though. He's an ok player in the same way that Rodwell, Bridcutt, Gomez, Colback, Cattermole, Larsson and Gardner are ok players. What we desperately need is something that elevates our CM above "Ok"........a Modric or a Lampard.......someone that's 50% better than what we have not roughly the same. It's the same for our striking options mind......ok players and linked to more ok players when what we need up front is a Bony or Benteke (fully fit Benteke)
I do know what they're saying and of course I'm being flippant it still surprises me however that our supporters seem to still believe we are above players like this when it's pretty much all we can expect. Certainly from the domestic market.
Players you mentioned (bony, benteke) were pretty much unknowns when they were plucked by villa and Swansea. Our record At unearthing such players is pretty dismal really.
Until we sort out our scouting system the glen whelsns of this world are all we can expect I'm afraid.
Lord Alfred
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Yeah, i said much the same on another thread......we either have to up our scouting game or attempt to make occasional high profile signings. I'd be over the moon if we only made one signing this window and it was either Bony or Benteke.....£20m balanced by the sales of Altidore and Giaccherini.....hell, i'd even throw Fletcher in if it was a deal clincher.
deleted user 785
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Its what we have, we want better.
Lord Alfred
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We've done it for years....adding mediocrity to mediocrity. At some stage we have to attempt to break out and bring in the odd Galactico.....
We thought we had with Rodwell. Doesn't always work out though.
deleted user 785
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Good point, lets not want to improve.
Bony and benteke ships have sailed I'm afraid. They'd be off to a top 6 club of they were to leave. We need to pluck an unknown out from nowhere or polish up a rough diamond.
Neither of which we have a good record of doing.
We all want to improve but if you're building your hopes up on someone a lot better than Glem Whelan you're guna end up dissapointed I'm afraid.
deleted user 785
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I will be disappointed , correct.
It won't be hard to get better than Glenn Whelan
Because its bollocks.
rentaghost
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Glenn Whelan isn't bad - he is an identikit Sunderland midfielder of recent years. Closes down, harries, doesn't waste possession much but no creativity. We certainly don't need him.
WASTID
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Of course it is yes.... super Lee is a footballing god, how could I ever forget....
Peas in a pod man.
Majority of supporters outside of Stoke wouldn't rate Whelan too highly, and similarly, majority of supporters outside of Sunderland don't rate Cattermole too highly either. Wonder why.
It won't be hard you say? We've certainly made it look that way over the last few year then.
WASTID
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Precisely. We've had them falling out of our ears and still have plenty of options for that sort of role. No improvement if we sign a player like him - hence why the club won't be in the slightest bit interested in him. Unless its a swap deal.
deleted user 785
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because they don't watch them regularly. Whelan isn't that popular with Stoke fans, Cattermole is with Sunderland fans. Why?
Whelans current manager wanted Cattermole and now seemingly doesn't want Whelan. .Why?
No it won't. Past mistakes are irrelevant.
Quick question and answer this honestly. Before we signed Rodwell who would you have said is the better player Rodwell or Whelan?
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