cooky
Winger
Wouldn't touch Clarke with a bargepole, bloke is an utter wanker.
Your West indies squad and 1st test team
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The Breen Machine
Striker
Lees
Libby
Crawley
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Wood
Robinson
Broad
Leach
Libby
Crawley
Root
Malan
Stokes
Bairstow
Wood
Robinson
Broad
Leach
Salem Street South
Striker
Swap Robinson for Mahmood and possibly Vince for Livingstone or someone like Clarke and that would be my team.
Is he the one that was suspended for some unsavoury stuff a year or two ago?
mackembhoy
Striker
I'm just sad were never going to get the long awaited Stokes Foakes Woakes batting line up.
Aye stokes needs moving down to 6 like
It’s not been mentioned but he won’t be a consistent 5
And therefore bairstow 7
Vince and Clarke 2 of the best technically sound ones I’ve seen
I understand the calls for Livingstone but not yet he needs a year of no franchise cricket and just red ball
His technique is all over the place currently
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Salem Street South
Striker
Agree on Vince technically. It’s his mentality I question, just don’t think he’s got the mental strength for Test cricket. Not seen anything of Clarke so pure guesswork from me as far as he’s concerned. The thing with Livingstone is I think he’s got the attitude and mentality for Test cricket as shown by what he did in white ball for England, similar to Malan, which is what this side needs and why I wanted him in Australia. The technique can be worked on. If we have the coaches to do it of course.
I’m telling you though if he has the technique he’s had the last 18 months he will not grind out 100s for England
He isn’t capable of it
He needs to revert to how he played years ago
Mentality in test cricket is not giving a bit back to the bowler verbally etc. that means nothing. It’s being able to do things over and over and over
Can he judge ball after ball on off stump. I don’t think he can right now
He has done in the past but he’s been around the world in white ball tournaments standing on leg stump since then
Salem Street South
Striker
Fair points and I don’t disagree broadly speaking, however mentality is also about big game experience and not being overawed by the situation.
Something I think applies to the likes of Hameed, Vince, Pope, probably even Burns and a few others.
Billings showed it’s possible to come in and get runs with only white ball cricket behind you, and imo Livingstone is a better player, and gives you a spin option.
Your point about the openers and not knowing if we’ve got better till we try them also applies in this case.
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cooky
Winger
Aye, a few different things. Heard a load of stories about him too beyond what’s actually been reported
him and his brothers are utter shithouses.
Salem Street South
Striker
Fair enough mate, care to share?Aye, a few different things. Heard a load of stories about him too beyond what’s actually been reported
pm if need be!
cooky
Winger
Won’t go into too many absolute specifics on here but I know of at least 2 other situations similar in nature to the Hepburn case where they have (*apparently*) paid people off. One of my good mates went to school with him so knows a lot of the same groups of people. He was actually at the same party a year or 2 back where him and his brothers (*apparently*) attacked and glassed someone.Fair enough mate, care to share?
Clearly why he has never been called up to any format In any squad
cooky
Winger
Yeah, he is quite clearly a very talented player who would be in the side in other circumstances.
Bohannon and Bracey are great calls
Id have Carse as first reserve I just forgot about him
Bracey needs a go at 3 actually he has something and his games for England were unfortunate circumstances
Rip Van Fish
Striker
I think he will be
Can’t believe the T20’s are on BT like the Ashes, FFS, Mrs normally asleep by 9 so was gonna watch these, why the Fook do I have Sky Sports?
Salem Street South
Striker
Me too. Just watched the Sky vodcast from the last Test, some really good and insightful debate from Nasser and Athers. Rob Key to an extent as well.
The Hesford Diet
Striker
I do wonder if the ECB will send out an essentially Lions squad with a few experienced players added in, as a kind of sop to a braying knee-jerk media who think all of them need dropping?
I'd never consider Clarke for a second. If a bloke's an arsehole, that does have an effect on any sports team. It seems anyone connected with English test cricket with that surname needs banning.
I'd never consider Clarke for a second. If a bloke's an arsehole, that does have an effect on any sports team. It seems anyone connected with English test cricket with that surname needs banning.
