Windows 11

Now I’m getting fake macafee pop ups all over the place after I uninstalled macafee.

I give up.
 


Sunderland Til I Cry said:
My laptop can’t be upgraded to 11, means a new one when Win 10 goes unsupported in Oct 2025. Having said that it has been pushed back 2 years in a row now so who knows when it will be.
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When Win10 does go off support then your options are
1) Keep using it anyway. It will still work but you won't get the security updates
2) Replace Windows 10 with a lightweight Linux distro.
3) Go shopping. By Oct 25, any laptop not capable of running Win11 is going to be ancient and Windows 12 will be with us.


I still have one old laptop which fails to meet the minimum spec for Windows 11. I don't use it very often as the battery is knackered so will probably keep it on Win10 until it dies.
 
At work our estate is on windows 11, Intune managed it is great and easy to manage.
Sunderland Til I Cry said:
My laptop can’t be upgraded to 11, means a new one when Win 10 goes unsupported in Oct 2025. Having said that it has been pushed back 2 years in a row now so who knows when it will be.
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What laptop do you have? We have old laptops at my work place that can take win11 through a reg edit
 
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Darlo1973 said:
When Win10 does go off support then your options are
1) Keep using it anyway. It will still work but you won't get the security updates
2) Replace Windows 10 with a lightweight Linux distro.
3) Go shopping. By Oct 25, any laptop not capable of running Win11 is going to be ancient and Windows 12 will be with us.


I still have one old laptop which fails to meet the minimum spec for Windows 11. I don't use it very often as the battery is knackered so will probably keep it on Win10 until it dies.
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If it was previously running Windows 10, the linux distro doesn't need to be lightweight.

Virtually any linux you load will be at least as quick, if not quicker, than Windows 10 and its bloat.

The decision should be down to what apps you need, and whether suitable equivalents exist for Linux
 
jaxaxe said:
If it was previously running Windows 10, the linux distro doesn't need to be lightweight.

Virtually any linux you load will be at least as quick, if not quicker, than Windows 10 and its bloat.

The decision should be down to what apps you need, and whether suitable equivalents exist for Linux
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Zorin is pretty user friendly.
 
Harry Gates said:
Zorin is pretty user friendly.
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There are a few nice ones, and Zorin is well reviewed.

My ancient workhorse Win 10 box won't upgrade to Win !!. No TPM to speak of, but the Xeon processor circa 2015 keeps the office warm.

I'll eventually migrate this, possibly to Linux Mint, LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition - Mint build with Debian rather than Ubuntu) or Ubuntu Studio. Will then pick up a cheap 1 litre Windows box and a KVM switch for odd Windows based games I still play.
 
jaxaxe said:
There are a few nice ones, and Zorin is well reviewed.

My ancient workhorse Win 10 box won't upgrade to Win !!. No TPM to speak of, but the Xeon processor circa 2015 keeps the office warm.

I'll eventually migrate this, possibly to Linux Mint, LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition - Mint build with Debian rather than Ubuntu) or Ubuntu Studio. Will then pick up a cheap 1 litre Windows box and a KVM switch for odd Windows based games I still play.
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I ran Mint for about six months, then Pop!, but didn't like the interface, settled on Kubuntu because i like KDE, can't get Debian to run for long before it falls over.
 
BiG said:
I quite regularly I get start up messages that exhort me to update to Windows 11.

As I don't have any problems with Windows 10, I've been rejecting them, and going through the whole process again a few days later.

I use File Manager quite a lot to sort files, navigate, download stuff, transfer e-books, music files, films etc. I use Word, Excel, email and Whatsapp on the laptop. Plus I do the usual surfing, holiday bookings, banking etc. I probably use the iPhone and the iPad mostly for that stuff tbf coz the apps work better. I never use the laptop to peruse deep-fake porn videos of Nora Batty because the iPhone is much better for that

I have an SSD Laptop plus a portable hard-drive. I use the hard-drive for ALL my files (backed up on One-Drive, except for temporary downloads to the laptop. I have Microsoft Office 365

I provide all this information just in case it makes a difference.

So what are your thoughts on whether I should update to Windows 11. I'm not sure if it will enhance anything but what I'm worried about is that it wikll stop me from doing things the way I've always done them and I'll have to come up with a workaround. And I don't want to.

Plus, it is easy, to revert back to the previous version if I think it's shite?
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I think the point is , W10 will cease to be supported by Microsoft imminently, I use 11 and have no issues with it.
 
Mr David said:
At work our estate is on windows 11, Intune managed it is great and easy to manage.

What laptop do you have? We have old laptops at my work place that can take win11 through a reg edit
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Its a Dell Latitude E7440 i5 Marra.
ontap said:
I think the point is , W10 will cease to be supported by Microsoft imminently, I use 11 and have no issues with it.
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Current date for support switch off was Oct 23, then slipped to Oct 24 now slipped again to Oct 25, who knows if they will extend again.
 
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Harry Gates said:
I ran Mint for about six months, then Pop!, but didn't like the interface, settled on Kubuntu because i like KDE, can't get Debian to run for long before it falls over.
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Latest version Debian 12 is getting good reviews. Mind you, some of the previous versions of Debian were only suitable for people with masochistic tendencies. Definitely one for the "purists". I have had bad experiences with Debian historically, and until recently the closest I would going to it is Ubuntu. I still like Ubuntu for a server.

May download Debian 12 and fire up a VM to take a look. The fact that Linux Mint are developing a Debian edition as a possible future alternative to its Ubuntu based distro is in itself a vote of confidence for Debian 12.
 
anth said:
I work for a university. There are loads of scientific instruments that costs tens or hundreds of thousands to replace that still work perfectly well, however the software that runs them only runs on old operating systems. I had to do cobble together an old PC that could take 32bit Windows 7 last week, because the app that was needed was 16bit. Obviously none of this stuff has an internet connection.
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This popped up in my RSS feed the other day. Windows 3.11 for Workgroups is still alive & well & running live environments Windows 3.11 lives on as job ad pleads for software support
Black Dog said:
www.tomshardware.com

MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 still run train dashboards at German railway — company listed admin job for 30-year-old operating system

Many with the requisite experience might already have retired.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com
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Bah! Beaten to it! If only I had a better OS
BiG said:
Now I’m getting fake macafee pop ups all over the place after I uninstalled macafee.

I give up.
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Very few AV products uninstall cleanly in my experience. Try their Consumer Products Removal Tool https://download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/SupportTools/MCPR/MCPR.exe
Sunderland Til I Cry said:
My laptop can’t be upgraded to 11, means a new one when Win 10 goes unsupported in Oct 2025. Having said that it has been pushed back 2 years in a row now so who knows when it will be.
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Not Necessarily. There seems to be workarounds for most of the reasons the suitability scanner gives.
 
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Daydream Believer said:
This popped up in my RSS feed the other day. Windows 3.11 for Workgroups is still alive & well & running live environments Windows 3.11 lives on as job ad pleads for software support


Bah! Beaten to it! If only I had a better OS


Very few AV products uninstall cleanly in my experience. Try their Consumer Products Removal Tool https://download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/SupportTools/MCPR/MCPR.exe


Not Necessarily. There seems to be workarounds for most of the reasons the suitability scanner gives.
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Ta. I googled, tried a few of the tips to get rid of the fuckers, in addition to the uninstall and searching for any elements that might still be sticking around. Then when I was pretty sure I’d got rid if them, I downloaded the free Malwarebytes thing and an adblocker.
 
BiG said:
Ta. I googled, tried a few of the tips to get rid of the fuckers, in addition to the uninstall and searching for any elements that might still be sticking around. Then when I was pretty sure I’d got rid if them, I downloaded the free Malwarebytes thing and an adblocker.
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Truth is this: Given all of the viruses, security threats and the other baggage associated with Windows, you should always be prepared to do a complete reinstall from installation media.

This means being disciplined about what else you install, where you keep your data, maintaining media and licence keys for any apps, and backing up your data.

This obviously isn't to everyone's taste. But they have been selling PCs as consumer appliances for decades. Your hoover, fridge and kettle have far less of a threat surface or an active ecosystem seeking to exploit them.
 
jaxaxe said:
Truth is this: Given all of the viruses, security threats and the other baggage associated with Windows, you should always be prepared to do a complete reinstall from installation media.

This means being disciplined about what else you install, where you keep your data, maintaining media and licence keys for any apps, and backing up your data.

This obviously isn't to everyone's taste. But they have been selling PCs as consumer appliances for decades. Your hoover, fridge and kettle have far less of a threat surface or an active ecosystem seeking to exploit them.
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I have very few additional apps. Microsoft 365, WhatsApp, iTunes is all I can think of. And I deleted Zoom and Teams cos I don’t need them. If I think harder maybe I could think of some others I got rid of to save space. I have banking apps and travel apps like flights and accommodation stuff on my iPad and/or phone. I try to keep my laptop free of any shit.

This current bollocks is as a result of my accidentally installing an iTunes update, then having to uninstall and reload an older version. In the meantime all sorts of shit happened and now I’m also faced with needing to repair links to 9000 songs in my iTunes library.

Yep. I should have just bought a Mac.
 
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