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Although I dosagree with thats happened, I kind of dont like Broad's piece there, cant help it, he sounds a bit entitled dont you think?
He does and I know what you mean. The ‘world class’ comment and saying he ‘has nothing to prove’ kind of sticks in the craw. Perhaps maintaining a dignified silence would have been more advisable.

But having said that, it’s a ridiculous situation that he’s fully entitled to feel aggrieved with and, as he says it would be wrong of him not to express that, if that’s what he feels he needs to do.

I’m still furious they’re not going, so can only imagine what they’re thinking. For my money, I’d have given Broad the captaincy.
 
He does and I know what you mean. The ‘world class’ comment and saying he ‘has nothing to prove’ kind of sticks in the craw. Perhaps maintaining a dignified silence would have been more advisable.

But having said that, it’s a ridiculous situation that he’s fully entitled to feel aggrieved with and, as he says it would be wrong of him not to express that, if that’s what he feels he needs to do.

I’m still furious they’re not going, so can only imagine what they’re thinking. For my money, I’d have given Broad the captaincy.
Personally I’d much prefer it than

“I respect the selectors, and I just want what is best for the team”
 
Personally I’d much prefer it than

“I respect the selectors, and I just want what is best for the team”
Absolutely. I’ve no time for that bland claptrap, but I still don’t think he’s said exactly what he thinks here.

I’d have preferred it if he’d got off the fence and said what we’re all thinking: that it’s a joke of a decision which is basically down to Root being a massive mingebag who can’t handle him and Jimmy and they’re paying the price for the batsmen being utter shite.

Obviously he realises if he is to have any chance of getting back in then he has to remain somewhat diplomatic, so was never going to happen.
 
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Although I dosagree with thats happened, I kind of dont like Broad's piece there, cant help it, he sounds a bit entitled dont you think?

Dropping him while in good form to play unproven players and a bowler who struggles outside of England gives him credit to speak out IMO.

I could understand it if he'd had a poor series and these bowlers were breaking down England's door for selection.

It reeks of personality politics, not picking players on form.
 
Personally I’d much prefer it than

“I respect the selectors, and I just want what is best for the team”

I just think there is an inbetween this and what he said

No player should be guaranteed selection

We were massively outbowled in Australia like in pretty unique conditions for Australia

Batting was the issue but we didnt bowl great IMO
I think its worth pointing out that we have actually won a lot of tests away from home in the last few years, and Broad didnt contribute to them

Jimmy did mind, but I guess they just took th chance to try it without him.
 
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I just think there is an inbetween this and what he said

No player should be guaranteed selection

We were massively outbowled in Australia like in pretty unique conditions for Australia

Batting was the issue but we didnt bowl great IMO
I think its worth pointing out that we have actually won a lot of tests away from home in the last few years, and Broad didnt contribute to them

Jimmy did mind, but I guess they just took th chance to try it without him.

Which wins away did Broad not contribute to? Was our best bowler in South Africa, bowled well in the 1 test he played in Sri Lanka. The 1 decent result we got in the ashes he took a 5 wicket haul and also batted to save the test
 
I just think there is an inbetween this and what he said

No player should be guaranteed selection

We were massively outbowled in Australia like in pretty unique conditions for Australia

Batting was the issue but we didnt bowl great IMO
I think its worth pointing out that we have actually won a lot of tests away from home in the last few years, and Broad didnt contribute to them

Jimmy did mind, but I guess they just took th chance to try it without him.
He did contribute, 1st test in Sri Lanka and the three wins in South Africa he took wickets and played a big part in all of them.
 
He didnt contribute much in those wins thats the point I am making, averaged 2 wickets per game.
Leading wicket taker in South Africa, 14 wickets @ 19 is contributing he led the attack brilliantly.
Taking 3 of Sri Lanka’s top 4 in tough conditions is also contributing and a big reason why were on top that test.

Squad just looks odd. Overton and Leach going even though it’s pretty obvious Root doesn’t rate either. Don’t know much about Fisher but would have preferred a left arm quick
 
Leading wicket taker in South Africa, 14 wickets @ 19 is contributing he led the attack brilliantly.
Taking 3 of Sri Lanka’s top 4 in tough conditions is also contributing and a big reason why were on top that test.

Squad just looks odd. Overton and Leach going even though it’s pretty obvious Root doesn’t rate either. Don’t know much about Fisher but would have preferred a left arm quick

That’s because he played every game. 14 wickets not amazing in a 4 match series. I like broad in just making the point I think his piece is over the top. Especially considering he will more than likely play in the summer

I agree the issue for me is that they’ve left them 2 out but picked like Woakes and Overton

If it was archer, stone, wood and Robinson etc you could understand

I’m playing devils advocate a bit here. I just think the column was slightly self entitled

And I’d have Anderson quite a bit ahead of broad in importance
 
Leading wicket taker in South Africa, 14 wickets @ 19 is contributing he led the attack brilliantly.
Taking 3 of Sri Lanka’s top 4 in tough conditions is also contributing and a big reason why were on top that test.

Squad just looks odd. Overton and Leach going even though it’s pretty obvious Root doesn’t rate either. Don’t know much about Fisher but would have preferred a left arm quick
Aye, this.
 
btw strangely despite what I said there I agree with The post about broad being captain for a bit

Not the worst shout

Certainly root should not be captain IMO

This is very much a Root n Stokes decision I think and Strauss is just fronting up for it and showing leadership
 
That’s because he played every game. 14 wickets not amazing in a 4 match series. I like broad in just making the point I think his piece is over the top. Especially considering he will more than likely play in the summer

I agree the issue for me is that they’ve left them 2 out but picked like Woakes and Overton

If it was archer, stone, wood and Robinson etc you could understand

I’m playing devils advocate a bit here. I just think the column was slightly self entitled

And I’d have Anderson quite a bit ahead of broad in importance
Just looking at numbers doesn’t always tell full story. Prior to the 5th ashes test Woods numbers didn’t look great but think everyone agreed he’d been our best bowler- thankfully he got his rewards.

Didn’t mind the column, still good to see he has desire to play and win test matches for England after 150 tests. Could have called it a day and got a nice punditry job with sky, think he will probably retire after the summer though. I hope Jimmy plays on another year however
 
That’s because he played every game. 14 wickets not amazing in a 4 match series. I like broad in just making the point I think his piece is over the top. Especially considering he will more than likely play in the summer

I agree the issue for me is that they’ve left them 2 out but picked like Woakes and Overton

If it was archer, stone, wood and Robinson etc you could understand

I’m playing devils advocate a bit here. I just think the column was slightly self entitled

And I’d have Anderson quite a bit ahead of broad in importance
Agree on Anderson and I get where you’re coming from with Broad & the tone of this piece. I know loads that can’t stand him and if he wasn’t our all time second best seamer, he’d probably get more stick than he does. I’d have rathered if he was gonna do a piece like this he hadn’t held back and told us exactly what’s going on, rather than skirt round the edges, or not said anything at all.
btw strangely despite what I said there I agree with The post about broad being captain for a bit

Not the worst shout

Certainly root should not be captain IMO

This is very much a Root n Stokes decision I think and Strauss is just fronting up for it and showing leadership
Definitely Root and Stokes decision, actually think Stokes might have had quite a lot to do with it. Based on not much more than a hunch admittedly.

More I think about it the more I think Broad is just a no brainer as captain, even if only for 18 months or so until someone else hopefully emerges.

Cummins has shown it’s possible.
 
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Agree on Anderson and I get where you’re coming from with Broad & the tone of this piece. I know loads that can’t stand him and if he wasn’t our all time second best seamer, he’d probably get more stick than he does. I’d have rathered if he was gonna do a piece like this he hadn’t held back and told us exactly what’s going on, rather than skirt round the edges, or not said anything at all.

Definitely Root and Stokes decision, actually think Stokes might have had quite a lot to do with it. Based on not much more than a hunch admittedly.

More I think about it the more I think Broad is just a no brainer as captain, even if only for 18 months or so until someone else hopefully emerges.

Cummins has shown it’s possible.
he has a central contract to protect remember-I'd imagine there's a clause in that limiting what he can say.
 
Came in the side as a top order batsman and we decided to give him the gloves and bat him at 7. I’d have took him just as another option at the top of the order - got a 100 for the lions in Australia so has a little form
Exactly this. Worth another look as a top-order bat. Let’s play people in their best positions before discarding them.
 
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