Vaccines

[PhilSAFC]

Want to know if I have had the virus first. If it turns out I have then i'm certainly not having the vaccine.

You won’t be able to find that out.

 

[Deleted member 6823]

Oxford University isn’t a vaccine company though

Double Ditto from me

My god,people even condoning lack of safety protocol in a roundabout way!
Who will commercialise it for OU?

What about GSK, Astra Zeneca, Moderna etc?

I might set up a company to develop vaccines, employ a few scientists etc and join what is perceived as a boardroom gold rush without consequence.

The globalists play a) on your ignorance b) use your good nature and fears against you

Why can't some conceive that their might be evil in the world that doesn't have your best interest at heart.
For a clue see see a + b above....

 

[Astra]

They won’t release a vaccine without checking it’s safe. They are currently conducting large scale trials in countries where the virus is still spreading rapidly to assess the safety and efficacy of the various vaccines.The actual vaccines are largely being developed using methods used before, only the immunogen is different, so it’s unlikely to be dangerous but may not work. It’s not often vaccines have such a large number of potential cases to trial on - most are against less widespread, rapidly increasing diseases. This will help speed up the testing by generating large numbers quickly. It will allow statisticians to determine whether and how well the vaccines work. Once they know they have vaccines that do protect people they will manufacture them using their usual safety standards.

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

Would you happily get one knowing that its been rushed through, knowing how long these things usually take to develop.

Personally would i fuck....

I've had a few vaccines when I've been travelling. Would have absolutely no issues having one which would hopefully protect me from a potentially life threatening virus. I tend to think if you didnt you're cracked in the head tbh.

 

[Prefab]

Aye, they're just going through phase 3 trials for a laugh, making it up as they go along. Those Oxford PhDs are just bought from diploma mills.

The number of people I know who are anti vax yet will happily take or stick something up their nose that they bought off some shady fuck in a boozers bathroom is insane. All medical procedures come with some risk, even cough syrup. I'll be getting it.

 

[PhilSAFC]

I might set up a company to develop vaccines,

Go on then.

 

[Frijj]

They won’t release a vaccine without checking it’s safe. They are currently conducting large scale trials in countries where the virus is still spreading rapidly to assess the safety and efficacy of the various vaccines.The actual vaccines are largely being developed using methods used before, only the immunogen is different, so it’s unlikely to be dangerous but may not work. It’s not often vaccines have such a large number of potential cases to trial on - most are against less widespread, rapidly increasing diseases. This will help speed up the testing by generating large numbers quickly. It will allow statisticians to determine whether and how well the vaccines work. Once they know they have vaccines that do protect people they will manufacture them using their usual safety standards.

Is your surname Zeneca?

 

[Astra]

Is your surname Zeneca?

I wish I had shares. I do know people who’ve worked for them and we did some collaborative studies in our lab a few years ago. Cancer related not vaccine. I do know people working on vaccines in Oxford but not the coronavirus. They do take safety very seriously and testing usually takes longer because possible numbers of test subjects are frequently very low. This situation is very unusual from the point of view of vaccine testing.

 

[Frijj]

I wish I had shares. I do know people who’ve worked for them and we did some collaborative studies in our lab a few years ago. Cancer related not vaccine. I do know people working on vaccines in Oxford but not the coronavirus. They do take safety very seriously and testing usually takes longer because possible numbers of test subjects are frequently very low. This situation is very unusual from the point of view of vaccine testing.

This is why we need more people who aren’t dafties on the board!

 

[PhilSAFC]

I've had a few vaccines when I've been travelling.

People would get it without question if there was a week in the sun involved. I’ve never looked into that side affects or safety tests a vaccine went through before. Suddenly everyone is a scientist. If they release one I’ll be getting it as soon as possible.

 

[bahtat]

Is your surname Zeneca?

Haven’t they agreed to sell it at cost, possibly use it as their advertising vehicle?

 

[cluffy]

I ain't afraid of no ghosts

 

[Silly Point]

People would get it without question if there was a week in the sun involved.

Make it mandatory for travel. Or destinations make it mandatory to enter the country. Suddenly be a high uptake I reckon

 

[bahtat]

My god,people even condoning lack of safety protocol in a roundabout way!
Who will commercialise it for OU?

What about GSK, Astra Zeneca, Moderna etc?

I might set up a company to develop vaccines, employ a few scientists etc and join what is perceived as a boardroom gold rush without consequence.

The globalists play a) on your ignorance b) use your good nature and fears against you

Why can't some conceive that their might be evil in the world that doesn't have your best interest at heart.
For a clue see see a + b above....

in what way am I condoning lack of safety protocol? In my experience academics put a high price on their scientific reputations amongst their peers, they won’t do anything that damages it particularly cut corners on safety, I’d imagine that professors at Oxford one of our leading universities are more zealous in this regard than most

 

[ivanthereasonable]

Its just occured to me that when a vaccine does get approval and mass inoculations occur, the number of blood donations will drop dramatically. Could add the coming flu seasons jabs to that. Especially with over 50's being considered for mass jabs.

On topic, i'd be happy to have a vaccine, be it for flu or C19.

 

[PhilSAFC]

Its just occured to me that when a vaccine does get approval and mass inoculations occur, the number of blood donations will drop dramatically. Could add the coming flu seasons jabs to that. Especially with over 50's being considered for mass jabs.

On topic, i'd be happy to have a vaccine, be it for flu or C19.

Not allowed after vaccine? For what period?

 

[bahtat]

Its just occured to me that when a vaccine does get approval and mass inoculations occur, the number of blood donations will drop dramatically. Could add the coming flu seasons jabs to that. Especially with over 50's being considered for mass jabs.

On topic, i'd be happy to have a vaccine, be it for flu or C19.

Why?

maybe you’ve raised a point though, how many of the anti vax brigade would refuse a life saving blood transfusion on basis it contained a vaccine

 

[ivanthereasonable]

Not allowed after vaccine? For what period?

I think a vaccination does rule you out for a spell. Could be 6 months. @Frijj would most likely know.

 

[Frijj]

I think a vaccination does rule you out for a spell. Could be 6 months. @Frijj would most likely know.

I didn’t know that!

 

[SAFCOldie]

Aye, they're just going through phase 3 trials for a laugh, making it up as they go along. Those Oxford PhDs are just bought from diploma mills.

The number of people I know who are anti vax yet will happily take or stick something up their nose that they bought off some shady fuck in a boozers bathroom is insane. All medical procedures come with some risk, even cough syrup. I'll be getting it.

In normal vaccine development it takes at least two years just to quantify side effects