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UFO's

KathyBatesHammer said:
If the Universe is infinite there will be an infinite amount of intelligent life.

Anything that is possible will happen an infinite amount of times.

Which is mad cos, feels like thats not possible. But then, how can the universe be finite, there literally cant be an end to it can there? Like if it universe is finite whats 'outside' it.
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The universe isn't infinite.

There's nothing outside it.

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Chalks said:
That depends , is the universe effectivly infinite? If so that’s an infinite amount of galaxies, planets and therefore opportunities for life to flourish
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.. and equally it'd have such a vastness that we could be millions of light years apart, could be trillions of beings like us but we'll never meet.

I'm not sure about infinity but I'd be a fool to think it isn't a reality just because it doesn't make sense to my puny human mind, there's tons of stuff we can't imagine but that doesn't stop it being true.
KathyBatesHammer said:
So if you travel in one direction youd eventually come back to where you started?
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High Entropy said:
.. and equally it'd have such a vastness that we could be millions of light years apart, could be trillions of beings like us but we'll never meet.

I'm not sure about infinity but I'd be a fool to think it isn't a reality just because it doesn't make sense to my puny human mind, there's tons of stuff we can't imagine but that doesn't stop it being true.
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If it's.. "stuff that we can't imagine" how the heck would we be even conscious of it let alone be in a position to say even though it was something that we were unaware of it was capable being proved empirically.

You may as well say... "We don't know what we don't know but whatever it is that we don't know it must be real even though we have no idea what it is."
 
Kent_Mackem said:
No idea. I quite like lying on the grass when it's a pitch black and clear night and looking at the Milky Way. It's staggering to think that all of the stars we can see with the naked eye are only in "our" galaxy. So those billions of stars are all pretty much on our own doorstep but far too distant to allow travel between them and us. It's even more staggering to think that there are billions of such galaxies further away. If there is life out there we won't be seeing it anytime soon here as the distances are just too huge, even within our own galaxy. But still there are people who are convinced they have seen alien spaceships because "there cannot be any other explanation."

We can't comprehend what is "outside" the edge of the universe (if indeed it has an edge). It's a bit like an earthworm can't comprehend the offside rule. It doesn't mean there necessarily can't be anything "outside" of the universe.

Who knows how far it reaches? We can't possibly tell as we can only detect the observable universe. There might be a limit, there might not. It's healthy, I think, to wonder about these things from time to time. But for me it just shows how precious our short lifetimes are. We're so lucky to be alive - best to make the most of it for ourselves and for others. I think we should cram as much into our lives as we possibly can.
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Difference between us and an Earthworm though is we have the cognitive ability to contemplate and discuss whether or not we're capable of comprehending certain concepts.

For that reason, I'm not sure that there's anything the human mind can't comprehend given the opportunity and information.
 
UFO s exist, Aliens from Outer space above the earth don't. They may be other Human type lifeforms living beyond the Ice Wall in the Antarctic which Byrd claims to have made contact with
 
Lord Potts said:
If it's.. "stuff that we can't imagine" how the heck would we be even conscious of it let alone be in a position to say even though it was something that we were unaware of it was capable being proved empirically.

You may as well say... "We don't know what we don't know but whatever it is that we don't know it must be real even though we have no idea what it is."
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We can't imagine that a cat is both dead AND alive at the same time, your (our) puny minds can't really imagine that, by imagine I mean picture it in your minds eye, it doesn't make sense to us.

I hear many people say "that can't be true, it doesn't make any sense" and what I'm trying to say is that doesn't really stand up because there are lots of things that "don't make sense" but are true anyway - like being nothing before you were born - nothing outside of the universe but it's difficult for us (humans) to comprehend, just like trying to visualise 100,000 light years as a distance, the size of the sun - those things are outside of our imagination.
 
Banter King said:
UFO s exist, Aliens from Outer space above the earth don't. They may be other Human type lifeforms living beyond the Ice Wall in the Antarctic which Byrd claims to have made contact with
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If you’re looking to the sky or the Arctic you’re looking in the wrong direction. There’s a moving base (mothership) in the sea. Every government knows about it but can’t get anywhere near it.

Lot of UFO footage shows craft entering and exiting oceans.
 
Roker Rick said:
The cat isn't dead or alive at the same time. That's a classic misrepresentation of the argument Shrodinger put forward.
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Semantics - The cat can be dead or alive* at the same time. Either way my point about being unable to imagine truths of nature/the universe stands.

*until we look.

Chalks said:
Define nothing , a gap ? A vacuum? what is nothing
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Where were you before you were born, that's nothing.
Grimes said:
Lot of UFO footage shows craft entering and exiting oceans.
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Please gimme 10 examples
 
High Entropy said:
Semantics - The cat can be dead or alive* at the same time. Either way my point about being unable to imagine truths of nature/the universe stands.

*until we look.



Where were you before you were born, that's nothing.


Please gimme 10 examples
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Technically before you where born you where part of both parents DNA. their dna combined then.

before that you where part of the first single cell, it’s split many times and then many times again and then many more over millions of years of evolution.

but as a conscious being , yes We didn’t exist
 
parm said:
the oceans are the perfect place for advanced civilisations doing reckies on earth to hide out and set up bases
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Avoiding all that plastic and the thousands and thousands of probes that float on and in the oceans collecting all kinds of data like
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, tremors, salinity, tsunamis, temperature,
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and probably a ton of other things but they'll never find the mothership because ... it's invisible, moves silently and has alien technology of course !
Chalks said:
didn’t exist
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That's a better description of nothing.
 
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