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UFO's

High Entropy said:
Sounds like descriptions of those crop circles we used to get.

Perhaps it's military software purposely made to test pilots on unknown/unpredictable scenarios?
What we do know is they can't brake like that in atmosphere without causing a wake, like laser/light holograms technology could, which is far more likely than alien-space-craft but the initial standpoint of this "sceptic" is - it's a spacecraft, a UFO, an alien and this is why.

Doesn't sound very sceptic to me, sounds like it's all confirmation bias and waving a phone around and mentioning a point of physics we don't yet understand as evidence for potential aliens was pretty dumb for smart guy.
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I think he is great
 

MunkyHeed said:
Not had a chance to go through these yet. Some very clever people with seriously respectable backgrounds involved in this group.
The whole disclosure process really should be in the hands of scientists and academics, not Governments.
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Cheers for posting, will be catching up on those over the next few days.

It shows that there are very intelligent people looking into this subject in great detail and its not tin foil hat wearing men sitting in their underpants researching on the Internet all day looking into it.
 
Grimes said:
No way, it’s only the last year that people have been seriously convinced disclosure is coming.
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You must be new to the internet, go to forums like
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and they have been saying disclosure is coming for the last 20 years, before that it was on newsgroups
 
qixman said:
You must be new to the internet, go to forums like
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and they have been saying disclosure is coming for the last 20 years, before that it was on newsgroups
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I’m not talking about random forums. I’m talking about media outlets, political figures, respected figures within the forces, whistleblowers etc
 
Grimes said:
I’m not talking about random forums. I’m talking about media outlets, political figures, respected figures within the forces, whistleblowers etc
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The media format has changed over the years, people are using twitter/YouTube now where as 20 years ago it was forums..
The people are the same just the way then convey their beliefs is different now.

Lazar started his grift in 1989, still no closer to disclosure.
 
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Grimes said:
I’m not talking about random forums. I’m talking about media outlets, political figures, respected figures within the forces, whistleblowers etc
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Media outlets will show or post anything that gets clicks and views, ufos are always topics that do this, fequency of reporting does not equate to disclosure. As to respected figures in the forces that is very debatable and is a nice side hustle for them on the events and guest speaker circle. Even so called whistleblowers say nothing substantive and instead just quote hearsay.
 
FritzzRider said:
The media format has changed over the years, people are using twitter/YouTube now where as 20 years ago it was forums..
The people are the same just the way then convey their beliefs is different now.

Lazar started his grift in 1989, still no closer to disclosure.
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I don’t believe Lazar is a grift, he could probably earn more being an engineer.
qixman said:
Media outlets will show or post anything that gets clicks and views, ufos are always topics that do this, fequency of reporting does not equate to disclosure. As to respected figures in the forces that is very debatable and is a nice side hustle for them on the events and guest speaker circle. Even so called whistleblowers say nothing substantive and instead just quote hearsay.
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Still the way they’ve treated Grusch and revealing previous PTSD diagnosis is a disgrace. A real slap in the face to anyone who’s served.

“These people have PTSD from serving their country so don’t believe them”
 
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Grimes said:
Still the way they’ve treated Grusch and revealing previous PTSD diagnosis is a disgrace. A real slap in the face to anyone who’s served.

“These people have PTSD from serving their country so don’t believe them”
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That plan spectacularly backfired on them. Also became clear that someone with access to people’s private data leaked the info to the hack that reported the story. Really hope that’s being investigated.
 
Grimes said:
I don’t believe Lazar is a grift, he could probably earn more being an engineer.

Still the way they’ve treated Grusch and revealing previous PTSD diagnosis is a disgrace. A real slap in the face to anyone who’s served.

“These people have PTSD from serving their country so don’t believe them”
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Neither do I, never have. Whereas Travis "watshisname" who claims to have ben abducted "Fire in the sky" has done lots of conventions and books, interviews for a long time. Hell, he might even be telling the truth. In comparison, Lazar has done very little media apart from the initial 80s one, then that movie (Corbell) in 2020. Thta's from my memory anyway, I know he went on JR show.
 
Grimes said:
I don’t believe Lazar is a grift, he could probably earn more being an engineer.
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Lazar claims to have obtained master's degrees in physics from the
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(MIT) and in electronics from the
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(Caltech). However, both universities show no record of him.
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Scientists and have stated that nobody with Lazar's high school performance record would be accepted by either institution. Lazar is unable to supply the names of any lecturers or fellow students from his alleged tenures at MIT and Caltech; one supposed Caltech professor, William Duxler, was in fact located at Pierce Junior College and had never taught at Caltech. Friedman asserted, "Quite obviously, if one can go to MIT, one doesn't go to Pierce. Lazar was at Pierce at the very same time he was supposedly at MIT more than 2,500 miles away."

Aka a grifter
 
FritzzRider said:
Lazar claims to have obtained master's degrees in physics from the
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(MIT) and in electronics from the
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(Caltech). However, both universities show no record of him.
You must be logged on to see external links
Scientists and have stated that nobody with Lazar's high school performance record would be accepted by either institution. Lazar is unable to supply the names of any lecturers or fellow students from his alleged tenures at MIT and Caltech; one supposed Caltech professor, William Duxler, was in fact located at Pierce Junior College and had never taught at Caltech. Friedman asserted, "Quite obviously, if one can go to MIT, one doesn't go to Pierce. Lazar was at Pierce at the very same time he was supposedly at MIT more than 2,500 miles away."

Aka a grifter
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There’s a match on so I’m not reading all that but the hyperlink’s suggest it’s straight off Wikipedia.
 
FritzzRider said:
Lazar claims to have obtained master's degrees in physics from the
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(MIT) and in electronics from the
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(Caltech). However, both universities show no record of him.
You must be logged on to see external links
Scientists and have stated that nobody with Lazar's high school performance record would be accepted by either institution. Lazar is unable to supply the names of any lecturers or fellow students from his alleged tenures at MIT and Caltech; one supposed Caltech professor, William Duxler, was in fact located at Pierce Junior College and had never taught at Caltech. Friedman asserted, "Quite obviously, if one can go to MIT, one doesn't go to Pierce. Lazar was at Pierce at the very same time he was supposedly at MIT more than 2,500 miles away."

Aka a grifter
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You don’t know that and I’m sure records can easily be wiped from existence.
 
mini-x2 said:
You don’t know that and I’m sure records can easily be wiped from existence.
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It was proven that Lazar's history had been tampered with.
Grimes said:
There’s a match on so I’m not reading all that but the hyperlink’s suggest it’s straight off Wikipedia.
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George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell were talking last week about Wikipedia being edited to negatively portray some of the people who are pushing disclosure and they themselves have been unable to get the edits changed.

George Knapp also confirmed that he was tipped by a private investigator who he knows in Las Vegas that someone with money was approaching private investigators in the Las Vegas area trying to pay to get any dirt on him.

There's an information war going on.
 
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skullmeister said:
It was proven that Lazar's history had been tampered with.


George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell were talking last week about Wikipedia being edited to negatively portray some of the people who are pushing disclosure and they themselves have been unable to get the edits changed.

George Knapp also confirmed that he was tipped by a private investigator who he knows in Las Vegas that someone with money was approaching private investigators in the Las Vegas area trying to pay to get any dirt on him.

There's an information war going on.
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Yep it’s not reliable at all, it’s like me going on the UFO wiki page, editing it to say they exist and then posting it on here. The deniers would be up in arms about it so not sure why they’re using it as a source now.
 
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