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Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View


chico said:
I would sack Wilder tomorrow, he‘s an f,in gobshite and always has been. Mowbray might not be a headline appointment that we think we need but I agree with the initial poster he might be what we need, after some of the dipstick appointments we have made in recent years he could be a revelation
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I would have that 'gobshite' here in a heartbeat but being realistic the rest of your post is fairly sensible.
 
1982DurhamSAFC said:
When the name came up I thought wtf anyone but him!

To be honest he looks like something from steptoe & son. My impression of him was old school clogger manager.
Also had a dislike to him because of his disrespecting comments & spitting his dummy about Sunderland after we beat WBA under Keano in the Championship.

However having done some due diligence I think he'd be a solid if not sexy / spectacular appointment.

Apparently willing to work with young players & develop them.

Solid managerial career

Worked with Stuart Harvey at Blackburn so both can work together I hope.

He's available now.

Seems to fit the model.

Worked most of his career in Championship so knows it like the back of his hands.


On the face of it safe pair of hands.
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Agree. Could have written this myself. Not the smoothest of talkers and certainly does not fit the profile of the modern day coaches who all seem to have a MBA in corporate bull. Seems a straight talking, genuine, honest guy who I am sure the players would respect.
 
ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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Thank you. Makes a lot of sense.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Why aye. Because I bet 48 hours ago you’d have been saying Mowbray was an excellent alternative to Neil and also a better option than Chris Wilder
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Was more than happy with Neil and 48 hours ago I never thought we would be looking for a manager, Wilder in my opinion is vastly overhyped, Mowbray is capable of keeping us up and keep us playing decent football. If you had a bet you would have lost
 
That Karanka team that got promoted was mostly Mowbray buys. From what I recall -

Dimi, Ayala, Friend, Gibson (given his debut under Mogga), Leadbitter, Adomah were all Mowbrays buys. That is literally the backbone of that side. Karanka has done nothing since. He had it good at Boro because of what Mowbray built.

I think most Boro fans wouldn't think any less of him if he took the Sunderland job, that's how much of a legend he is. You could do a lot worse.
 
Why sack Durban said:
We are Sunderland though . He’s bang average . Sustainability at Blackburn and Middlesbrough isn’t what we aspire to.
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'We are Sunderland' though, wtf does that mean ?

A club that nearly went bust 5 years ago, losing a fortune every week and whom no one would touch apart from a couple of erm....
middx mackems said:
Absolute bollix
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Most enlightening.
If you're going to call bollix, at least explain why u think so, or is it just because he's a Boro legend ?
 
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seahamstar said:
Maybe us Boro fans just DIVVENT understand.
And you lot say Newcastle fans think above their station.
You've just scraped up out of the third division , and have won nothing for 49 years, yet seem to think you can attract a 'big personality'
😁😁😁😁
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Sadly, there's way too many think we are a big club just because we get good crowds.
We don't even have as many Euro games as Boro....4 to be precise and some fans think we are a big club still.
Baffling.
1982DurhamSAFC said:
When the name came up I thought wtf anyone but him!

To be honest he looks like something from steptoe & son. My impression of him was old school clogger manager.
Also had a dislike to him because of his disrespecting comments & spitting his dummy about Sunderland after we beat WBA under Keano in the Championship.

However having done some due diligence I think he'd be a solid if not sexy / spectacular appointment.

Apparently willing to work with young players & develop them.

Solid managerial career

Worked with Stuart Harvey at Blackburn so both can work together I hope.

He's available now.

Seems to fit the model.

Worked most of his career in Championship so knows it like the back of his hands.


On the face of it safe pair of hands.
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To be fair he does spit a lot which will put loads of our woke fans off him
 
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Know for a fact the players were devastated to loose Neil..to get someone in who they can trust and get the best out of the young players (and he's local) will count for a lot imo.
Get him in !
 
Luna17 said:
Sadly, there's way too many think we are a big club just because we get good crowds.
We don't even have as many Euro games as Boro....4 to be precise and some fans think we are a big club still.
Baffling.


To be fair he does spit a lot which will put loads of our woke fans off him
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And because despite our lack of success we have attracted and appointed ‘big personalities’ to the Sunderland job before. In the last thirty years, we’ve Reid, McCarthy, Keane, Advocaat, Moyes, O’Neill and Coleman: all of those had either been at very big jobs prior or their stock was high.

Crack on with the forum niceties with a Boro supporter whilst belittling your own club though.
 
we three kings said:
This is a serious question marra as you seem like a knowledgeable poster .
Would you genuinely stop going because of this appointment ( if it happens ) ?or is it said out of disappointment it’s not someone else .
I actually think the opposite that he will do well -football eh !? and he will get my backing
Not saying I will be right or you will mate -who knows ?
The players are there as you say ( need a few more including a big strong central mid fielder and a Centre forward as Simms looks knackered after 60 mins .
If Mowbray or whoever can come in and be the “ figurehead “ we have the players to push on.The spirit was certaiyhere yesterday
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Undecided yet. Absolutely deflating appointment if true.
 
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