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Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View


TravellingMackem said:
If there’s personal abuse going on, that is a disgrace from our fans involved. I really don’t think he’s a good fit for us, and will probably bin my DD if he’s appointed, but there’s no need for him receiving abuse over this.

He just stinks of one of those big standard managerial merry go round appointments with no positive thinking behind it at all to me. Very much in the same category as when we appointed Bruce, Parkinson, Grayson, moyes, Coleman, etc.. it is so uninspiring it’s rather sad considering how last week I genuinely thought we had an outside chance at a run at automatics, and a good shot at the playoff positions.

This just smells to me like the club accepting a rather boring 12th position finish and accepting their lot as a bang average championship side with no ambition.

I honestly think we are better than that. Our squad is very good for this level, we’ve got the best striker in the league which is worth its weight in gold at this level and I don’t see any reason why we couldn’t be optimistic about a playoff finish, with the right ambitious and positive appointment.
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This is a serious question marra as you seem like a knowledgeable poster .
Would you genuinely stop going because of this appointment ( if it happens ) ?or is it said out of disappointment it’s not someone else .
I actually think the opposite that he will do well -football eh !? and he will get my backing
Not saying I will be right or you will mate -who knows ?
The players are there as you say ( need a few more including a big strong central mid fielder and a Centre forward as Simms looks knackered after 60 mins .
If Mowbray or whoever can come in and be the “ figurehead “ we have the players to push on.The spirit was certaiyhere yesterday
 
ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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Did he used to polish his shoes?

(Thanks for an excellent summary, interesting reading).
 
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tom92 said:
Shows how far we have fallen as a club that Boro fans come on here and try to patronise the fanbase

Mowbray is clearly popular at Boro cos he’s an ex player and a local lad

That doesn’t apply to us

Only managers that succeed at Sunderland are big personalities and he’s not one of them
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Maybe us Boro fans just DIVVENT understand.
And you lot say Newcastle fans think above their station.
You've just scraped up out of the third division , and have won nothing for 49 years, yet seem to think you can attract a 'big personality'
😁😁😁😁
 
TravellingMackem said:
If there’s personal abuse going on, that is a disgrace from our fans involved. I really don’t think he’s a good fit for us, and will probably bin my DD if he’s appointed, but there’s no need for him receiving abuse over this.

He just stinks of one of those big standard managerial merry go round appointments with no positive thinking behind it at all to me. Very much in the same category as when we appointed Bruce, Parkinson, Grayson, moyes, Coleman, etc.. it is so uninspiring it’s rather sad considering how last week I genuinely thought we had an outside chance at a run at automatics, and a good shot at the playoff positions.

This just smells to me like the club accepting a rather boring 12th position finish and accepting their lot as a bang average championship side with no ambition.

I honestly think we are better than that. Our squad is very good for this level, we’ve got the best striker in the league which is worth its weight in gold at this level and I don’t see any reason why we couldn’t be optimistic about a playoff finish, with the right ambitious and positive appointment.
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Binning your DD? Ha'way man. I do agree with what you say about Mowbray though.
 
riffraff said:
Aye.
Thisll prove their much heralded adoption of data crunching modern methods to be lies. If they’re lying about this then what else are they lying about?

Do they seriously think that anyone except the thickest safc fan will believe that out of thousands of potential safc head coaches on this planet the best candidate just happens to be an unemployed ex mate of the head of recruitment from 30 miles down the road? Buxtonesque is what it is.
There’s no point whatsoever in adopting a money ball type data crunching player recruitment policy if the person those players are handed over to is plucked from the head of recruitments Xmas card list.

Dont believe SAFCs lies.
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Using the same methods that decided PPE contracts which conveniently went to friends of government ministers...

Aye Politics Forum this shit, but I am just sourcing the data crunching methodology
 
My concern is Grayson, Coleman and Parkinson were disasters so comparing Tony to them indicates he potentially will be the same.
So far I’ve not seen any evidence he’s got the job other than lazy press ideas.
Hopefully it’s not him for me.
 
arthursboy said:
My concern is Grayson, Coleman and Parkinson were disasters so comparing Tony to them indicates he potentially will be the same.
So far I’ve not seen any evidence he’s got the job other than lazy press ideas.
Hopefully it’s not him for me.
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Coleman didnt got backing to kept us up...
 
I see the succession planning here. React and go for the opposite of the last manager.

We had a bullshitter so we appoint a straight talker.

We lose the least loyal manager so let’s go for manager who sticks around and honours a contract.

No doubt our next boss after TM will be Marco Silva the best looking manager in world football…
 
seahamstar said:
Maybe us Boro fans just DIVVENT understand.
And you lot say Newcastle fans think above their station.
You've just scraped up out of the third division , and have won nothing for 49 years, yet seem to think you can attract a 'big personality'
😁😁😁😁
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I don't think we'd have any trouble attracting a big personality. Paying for him on the other hand....

Happy to give Tony Mowbray my full support.
 
arthursboy said:
My concern is Grayson, Coleman and Parkinson were disasters so comparing Tony to them indicates he potentially will be the same.
So far I’ve not seen any evidence he’s got the job other than lazy press ideas.
Hopefully it’s not him for me.
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The longer it drags on then the less likely it will be him. If you remember, the last few times the red hot favourites early doors have not become the Sunderland manager.
 
ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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When the name came up I thought wtf anyone but him!

To be honest he looks like something from steptoe & son. My impression of him was old school clogger manager.
Also had a dislike to him because of his disrespecting comments & spitting his dummy about Sunderland after we beat WBA under Keano in the Championship.

However having done some due diligence I think he'd be a solid if not sexy / spectacular appointment.

Apparently willing to work with young players & develop them.

Solid managerial career

Worked with Stuart Harvey at Blackburn so both can work together I hope.

He's available now.

Seems to fit the model.

Worked most of his career in Championship so knows it like the back of his hands.


On the face of it safe pair of hands.
 
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