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youre not adding anything to either your argument or the wider discussion with shit like this mind‘Model’ ‘sustainability’ ‘project’
I’m sure any answer will feature one of the above
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youre not adding anything to either your argument or the wider discussion with shit like this mind‘Model’ ‘sustainability’ ‘project’
I’m sure any answer will feature one of the above
I don't think any Sunderland fan would want Moyes back. He left after achieving nothing here.Boro wanted Mowbray out. He failed there in quite a significant way. He was sacked having achieved nothing there. I’ve mates who support Boro who wouldn’t want him back even if Wilder departed tomorrow morning. They certainly wouldn’t want Mowbray to replace Wilder.
Yet somehow according to this Boro supporter, as eloquent as he may have been, we’re to welcome his appointment? Why aye
65%. A significantly higher win rate. That’s an extra two games won out of ten.
Mowbray has a mediocre record as manager. He’s done nothing of any note and at 58 doesn’t really represent a future investment. If he’s appointed it’s unambitious, unimaginative rubbish. If a local, cheap and readily available option is the best Speakman and his data crunching bods can come up with then we’re being sold a complete fantasy here
youre just making shit up now and making a fool of yourself....youre overwrought grow up and log off for a bitIf nigh on half a decade of mid table finishes and a flirtation with the play offs is what our billionaire owner aspires to then the future is super exciting
youre not adding anything to either your argument or the wider discussion with shit like this mind![]()
Who would be your number one choice out of interest?I’ve said plenty more. Pick the bones out the rest of it.
I’m annoyed that SAFC would consider appointing Mowbray and I’m equally annoyed that our supporters would happily accept this rank mediocrity.
You know mate.When he was first touted i was fuck me no, But having read your post I'm thinking "aye why not:.Evening Tony
youre just making shit up now and making a fool of yourself....youre overwrought grow up and log off for a bit![]()
Songbray for MowbrayI love Tony Mowbray. He was an inspirational captain for us.
As a manager he was unlucky to come to us when we were in some dire financial trouble. Gibson couldn't give him any financial backing and his brief was simply to keep us up. He's a great leader which led to the Rioch quote about how he would go to the moon with him which is what our fanzine and fan site is based around.
I know Tony outside of football and he is an intelligent principled family man.
I hope you give him a go.
FRO garbage….. and we don’t give a flying fuck what you think!Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade!
Down to business.
I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.
He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.
He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.
He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).
A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.
He is well respected by many in the game.
What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.
Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.
Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.
I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.
Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.
Tony Mowbray is your man.
Who would be your number one choice out of interest?
I would sack Wilder tomorrow, he‘s an f,in gobshite and always has been. Mowbray might not be a headline appointment that we think we need but I agree with the initial poster he might be what we need, after some of the dipstick appointments we have made in recent years he could be a revelationBefore you patronise us with this nonsense, I’ve a question. Would you sack Wilder and have him back tomorrow?
I dont really. Said earlier it smacks of no ambition, no real search because he's Harvey's mate and cheap.I’m genuinely very surprised you’re thinking this is a good move mind
He has achieved about the as much as Alex Neil yet people are going on as if his the next Guardiola! The same poster who were giving out about Mowbray are more than likely the same ones who complained about Neil when he took over.Genuinely successful? Really?
Really? Mate we have just come up from l1 what do you expect promotion?We are Sunderland though . He’s bang average . Sustainability at Blackburn and Middlesbrough isn’t what we aspire to.
So what do we do in 3 years time when we finish 14th/15th ? and we have dropped 10,000 +. off the ST numbers ?Totally agree, I think he would be a solid appointment which is exactly what we need at the minute. Those who think we could get back to back promotions with the young, unbalanced squad we have are diluded.
I think Mowbray could be someone who can get us in a position to be challenging for promotion in two to three years time, which is what my expectations are. I just want to stay up comfortably this season adn see the young players develop and improve.