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Tony Mowbray - Boro Supporter View


The_Witch said:
I had a look on Boro's forum (Boro Online?) after we beat Middlesbrough 4-1 at home when Mogga was managing them and we had Mick Mac. And to a man they were all saying how shit Mogga was, that he'd never been a tactician and that his team (which back then included the likes of Adomah, Downing, that midfielder they got from the Scum called Jonny summink, that right back Friend they all thought would play for England, so we're not talking cheap here) was poorly coached and looked frightened of their own shadow. And that day they were comprehensively out-thought, out-performed and outmanoeuvred by a bluff Yorkshireman, his mate Terry and a team thrown together pretty much from the bargain bucket.

I too like Mogga. He's an old Ipswich favourite, a decent man with good principles, been through a lot in his life with his wife tragically passing away too young. But to pretend he's Brian Clough is stretching a point.

If you just want unspectacular, risk-free plod that'll take you to 17th by the end of the season, by all means. This is an opportunity, however.
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so explain Blackburn then??? And I'm not defending or proposing anyone by the way..
 
StillDaydreaming of Herts said:
perhaps it should be: "would you have him tomorrow in OUR current circumstances" (ie not Middlesborough's- we are afterall managerless and new to the Championship with a recovering, previously traumatised young team).
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Previously traumatised?

Boro wouldn’t want Mowbray back. Maybe if the option was Strachan or Mowbray they would but that’d be about it
 
Any head coach coming here has so much support already in place that allows them purely just to coach the players and not spend hours on other associated tasks with being a traditional football manager. Not saying TM is my choice but then again if I'm honest I didn't want Alex Neil anywhere near our job and the club got that right with him so I'm confident if they want him then they trust him to do a good job.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
65%. A significantly higher win rate. That’s an extra two games won out of ten.

Mowbray has a mediocre record as manager. He’s done nothing of any note and at 58 doesn’t really represent a future investment. If he’s appointed it’s unambitious, unimaginative rubbish. If a local, cheap and readily available option is the best Speakman and his data crunching bods can come up with then we’re being sold a complete fantasy here
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you're selling yourself the fantasy! It isn't a reality show. Progress will take time.
 
ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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Long post that like just be told to fuck right off. Would rather drown myself in Mowbray park duck pond.
 
Kent_Mackem said:
I started watching Sunderland in 1987 in Division 3. Denis Smith was manager. We won the league and with Gabbiadini, Gates, Pascoe, MacPhail, Armstrong, Owers etc we had players who could score lots of goals. Even in the league above next season it was exciting to watch.

Since then, excluding caretaker managers, we have had something like 22 different managers. Only Peter Reid lasted any longer than 3 years.

If and when Tony Mowbray is appointed, because it is inevitable, he will just be yet another uninspiring plodder who will be made even richer courtesy of SAFC when he fails to meet the supporters' expectations. Just like all of the others.

Ariston..... (for those old enough)
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..and on.. ;)
 
Kent_Mackem said:
I started watching Sunderland in 1987 in Division 3. Denis Smith was manager. We won the league and with Gabbiadini, Gates, Pascoe, MacPhail, Armstrong, Owers etc we had players who could score lots of goals. Even in the league above next season it was exciting to watch.

Since then, excluding caretaker managers, we have had something like 22 different managers. Only Peter Reid lasted any longer than 3 years.

If and when Tony Mowbray is appointed, because it is inevitable, he will just be yet another uninspiring plodder who will be made even richer courtesy of SAFC when he fails to meet the supporters' expectations. Just like all of the others.

Ariston..... (for those old enough)
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Tbf most of us thought this when AN was appointed. I certainly did.
 
ERIMUS1876 said:
Firstly, I feel a sense of recognition when "Hank Williams" asks me as a Boro supporter to pass on some views on this messageboard on Tony Mowbray. Such a request from the No.1 closet Boro supporter is the ultimate accolade! ;)

Down to business.

I saw Tony Mowbray make his Boro debut in 1982 (aged 18) at Sid James Park, go on to be our most inspirational captain (appointed aged 22) through arguably the most momentous period in the clubs history and in total saw around 80% of his 400+ home and away appearances for Boro. When he left Boro I followed his playing and later Managerial career which included a term at Boro.

He took over as Boro manager after the dual poor appointments of Southgate and Strachan. We were in a complete mess and heading for League One. He saved us from that fate and made genuine progress. The club didn't even have dossiers on individual players ... Mowbray brought his own with him to the club. I could mention numerous stories about his dedication and commitment to his managerial roles but won't bore you. He was left with a team of journeymen, young lads, has beens and never have beens. Several of these were Scottish players he had previously binned as Celtic manager who Strachan then brought to Boro! He made some quality signings on a shoestring budget and gave the supporters belief back. Most of the loyal Boro fans I know would have him back at the drop of a hat.

He has had a lifetime immersed in football and managed and played at the highest level in England and Scotland. As with all Managers hasn't always had it his own way but has steadied the ship with most clubs and also has gained promotions.

He has a positive track record of developing young players, playing a passing game and has a great eye for a player. Mowbray has a career record of 41% wins (Roy Keane achieved 42% at Sunderland as a comparison).

A North East lad who is astute, proud, genuine, honest and loyal. Mowbray also has very strong personal values and high levels of integrity. Don't underestimate any of these qualities.

He is well respected by many in the game.

What has surprised me is some of the vitriol I have read on this messageboard about him. Clearly not good enough for the vast majority of posters on here who have completely dismissed him as an option whilst some others have resorted to personal insults. Having known and worked with Sunderland supporters for many years, I'll be honest, I thought you were better than that.

Having had the likes of Simon Grayson, Chris Coleman, Phil Parkinson et al managing your club in recent times, someone like Mowbray should be given more consideration instead of being ridiculed.

Come to think of it the question should really be not does Sunderland need Tony Mowbray but does Tony Mowbray need Sunderland? He completed his full 5-years contract at his last club - Blackburn (not many managers do that these days - indeed Sunderland had 7 permanent managers during that time). He achieved promotion from League One in the process and in his last season had a young team challenging for promotion to the Premier League.

I suspect his reservations will be thinking that Sunderland is a club that in the last twenty years have had nearly as many permanent managers and in addition several owners including the current ones who are small-time, inexperienced, inflexible, don't value their manager and haven't invested much money. At least that is as it appears to an outsider.

Believe me Tony Mowbray would be a quality appointment for Sunderland (although it pains me to say that). It would be steady progress to achieve the clubs goals ... probably not quick enough for the twitterati and most posters on here but surely solid foundations, continuity and sustainability are key ingredients Sunderland have been lacking for years.

Tony Mowbray is your man.
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No he is not our man, he is so good that's why he is unemployed!!
Absolute relic of a manager
 
daventry cat said:
children when challenged often say 'because' :lol: surely youve a bit more than that
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Boro wanted Mowbray out. He failed there in quite a significant way. He was sacked having achieved nothing there. I’ve mates who support Boro who wouldn’t want him back even if Wilder departed tomorrow morning. They certainly wouldn’t want Mowbray to replace Wilder.

Yet somehow according to this Boro supporter, as eloquent as he may have been, we’re to welcome his appointment? Why aye
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
It's based on what he's done in the last four seasons at Blackburn
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Mediocrity at best. It’s based on being mates with Harvey who’s mate with Speakman.
Out of work, available.
He’s never been been popular with a lot of our support. He’s had his day, he’s a mates mate.
If he is appointed it’s a feckin disgrace,
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was offered the job and as long as Speakman is here this will be his manager.
Bookmark this.
Speakmans Patsy.
 
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