Tommy Robinson & BBC

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HABA87 said:
It really isn't weird at all. It's explained in the past few posts.

Ignorance is rife, but not an excuse.
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An excuse has been offered up to justify it... which doesn't imo.

Reverse the people mentioned and ask if it is acceptable? It isn't.

Biscuitz said:
Why are you trying so hard to pretend something is racist towards white people just so you can justify being angry towards non white people?
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Whether something is racist towards white people or not doesn't justify anyone to be angry against non-white people.

I'm certainly not angry against non-white people... It's rather strange you would jump to that being your conclusion.

Standard tactic though, instead of debating the merits of the argument... lets just say hes a racist so we dont have to :rolleyes:
 
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Aituk7 said:
An excuse has been offered up to justify it... which doesn't imo.

Reverse the people mentioned and ask if it is acceptable? It isn't.


Whether something is racist towards white people or not doesn't justify anyone to be angry against non-white people.

I'm certainly not angry against non-white people... It's rather strange you would jump to that being your conclusion.

Standard tactic though, instead of debating the merits of the argument... lets just say hes a racist so we dont have to :rolleyes:
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You're looking for something that isn't there. The same organisation has support for all victims.

If you're still confused by what they're doing or feeling oppressed for being white I suggest you get in touch with Rape Crisis directly. Probably by email so as not to waste emergency time.
 
Aituk7 said:
I'm certainly not angry against non-white people... It's rather strange you would jump to that being your conclusion.

Standard tactic though, instead of debating the merits of the argument... lets just say hes a racist so we dont have to :rolleyes:
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And now you have pretended i have said something other than i did just to justify even further faux outrage. What a very odd thing to continually do.

Some people are being raped, some other people want to help them. Your instinctive reaction to seeing that appears to be to try and find any position you can to be outraged by it, and the only way you have managed that is by pretending you are offended by part of it which only exists if you invent it.
 
HABA87 said:
You're looking for something that isn't there. The same organisation has support for all victims.

If you're still confused by what they're doing or feeling oppressed for being white I suggest you get in touch with Rape Crisis directly. Probably by email so as not to waste emergency time.
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I'm just saying I don't agree with putting out posters like that.

Calm down.

Biscuitz said:
And now you have pretended i have said something other than i did just to justify even further faux outrage. What a very odd thing to continually do.

Some people are being raped, some other people want to help them. Your instinctive reaction to seeing that appears to be to try and find any position you can to be outraged by it, and the only way you have managed that is by pretending you are offended by part of it which only exists if you invent it.
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Well you did insinuate I was being racist.

I have nothing against people helping rape victims.

I'm just saying I think they shouldn't put out posters that discriminate based on race.

If it was a poster saying white women get in touch I'd equally disagree with it.... something tells me you'd object to that one too.
 
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Aituk7 said:
Well you did insinuate I was being racist.
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Nope, but there you are yet again trying to find a way of making yourself the victim

Aituk7 said:
I'm just saying I think they shouldn't put out posters that discriminate based on race
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It quite clearly isn't discrimination. But I guess if you can pretend you think it is then at least you get to your faux outrage position again.
 
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Biscuitz said:
Nope, but there you are yet again trying to find a way of making yourself the victim



It quite clearly isn't discrimination. But I guess if you can pretend you think it is then at least you get to your faux outrage position again.
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You said I was using this as a way to get angry at non-white people. Which isn't true in any way. But is insinuating racism.

If you put up a sign saying white people welcome that would be discriminatory based on race... as is this... regardless of what your companies actual policy is.

JonMc said:
But that's what Tommy's words influence people to do. Obviously.
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True, but I don't blame people who tell me bad news, I blame the bad news
 
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Aituk7 said:
If you put up a sign saying white people welcome that would be discriminatory based on race... as is this... regardless of what your companies actual policy is.
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That is a false equivalence and you know it. Still, you get to do some more self pitying and pretending to be the real victim in this story.
 
Biscuitz said:
That is a false equivalence and you know it. Still, you get to do some more self pitying and pretending to be the real victim in this story.
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Look just to clear this up, I'm in no way pretending I'm a victim. If I'm coming across that way I apologise and profoundly stress that I'm merely voicing my opinion on this matter. I don't think simply disagreeing with something should automatically make you a victim.... once again I will stress I am not one.

That's a valid opinion to hold, a false equivalence may be how you feel it is.

I personally believe that things like this are wrong, I believe all discrimination based on race is wrong because it only leads to pissing off the people who are left out and in this case ruining the days of good meaning people who are simply trying to help rape victims.

JonMc said:
Yes. It is.
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We agree on something. Yey!

safc1981 said:
Has anything apart from his early videos came out?
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Whole things out this Tuesday apparently.
 
Aituk7 said:
In this instance though would you not agree it was people seeing that poster that did the work.... he merely passed the message on.
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I agree totally. Tommy primes and cocks the gun. If someone else pulls the trigger it's not his fault at all.
 
JonMc said:
I agree totally. Tommy primes and cocks the gun. If someone else pulls the trigger it's not his fault at all.
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Well by that logic we'd be blaming all sorts of people just for sharing information.

I think you're being biased against TR here.
 
SAFCOldie said:
If this report is true (about berks phoning up) then yes, although it could be bollocks, who's to say for sure.
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Outraged by the idea of a specialised rape crisis line for BAME victims, yet when it comes to the arseholes stopping victims of rape accessing that support, you're all hmm, well maybe it happened maybe it didn't, who knows.

This sort of stuff shines a light on how much many people really care about rape and rape victims, as opposed to just using it as a convenient political weapon.
 
Aituk7 said:
He does in a lot of things he does. In this case though I would say he doesn't.
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Posting something along the lines of "do white rapes not matter?" to the lowest common denominator actively serves to wind up the part of the populace that ascribes to his ideals. He knows this, it's how he keeps raking in the money despite having no actual job.

He knows exactly what he's doing. A person in his position of influence is responsible for the result of their actions whether they deliberately convey it as such or not.
 
Sorry can't be arsed to wade through 25 pages... when does the Panorama documentary on TR air? Has there been any preview footage of it or leaks about what they have on him?
 
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