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This is why I’ll never be comfortable with the model


Look at the team from the day that Speakman came in compared to now and tell me we haven't got a better calibre of player in literally every position.

Home to AFC Wimbledon (League One - 15th December 2020)

Lee Burge
Conor Mclaughlin
Callum McFadzean
Grant Leadbitter
Dion Sanderson
Bailey Wright
Jack Diamond
George Dobson
Will Grigg
Elliot Embelton
Aidien Obrien

Vs.

Home to Sheffield Wednesday (Championship 18th August 2024)

Patterson
Hume
Cirkin
Neil
O'nein
Alese
Roberts
Bellingham
Mayenda
Rigg
Clarke

Why don’t you compare it to the team that played two seasons ago?

It’s easier to do the business in league one.

We’ve gone backwards.
Patterson

Gooch
Batth
Ballard
Cirkin

Evans
Neil

Clarke
Pritchard
Embleton
Stewart
 
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Why don’t you compare it to the team that played two seasons ago?

It’s easier to do the business in league one.

We’ve gone backwards.
Patterson

Gooch
Batth
Ballard
Cirkin

Evans
Neil

Clarke
Pritchard
Embleton
Stewart
The teamsheet at shef Wed is better than that championship team bar Stewart?
 
The teamsheet at shef Wed is better than that championship team bar Stewart?

No it isn’t.

The two centre half’s are better vs Coventry.
Evans is an actual defensive midfielder.
Stewart is better than Mayenda.

We’re not further forwards. We haven’t replaced adequately.
 
Thats not what I asked you was it?
Yeah you did, you asked why wouldn't Ipswich sign the like for like, and I'm telling you it's probably because another player similar to the likes of Clarke would be sold for at least 25 million plus add-ons, by their club. We've massively undervalued him, so why would Ipswich need to go anywhere else they've literally got a huge bargain.
 
Why don’t you compare it to the team that played two seasons ago?

It’s easier to do the business in league one.

We’ve gone backwards.
People say this backwards bit and say we have bought dudds for the last few windows.
It's just thick imo.
Last Sunday we had cirkin , alese (Ballard injured) 09 hume
Clarke Bellingham Neil rigg and Roberts

There are few better players than those that play in this league. They are all worth millions.
Because we haven't been unable to improve on them over the last few windows people think we have gone backwards.
It's fairly hard to improve on young players who are great and worth millions when you don't have millions to spend.
Just cos some were bought in league one , they have had lots of game time. They have improved massively.
I'm not sure what people like you expect - that these players shouldn't be anywhere near the first team and we should have improved on them as we got them in league one?
Bizarre imo
 
The only credit ?
So having cirkin , alese , hume , Clarke , Bellingham and roberts in the side last Sunday , some of the best players in their position in the league , all bought by speakman, all young and going to improve, with poveda , browne , ekwah , Ballard on the side line gets him no credit ?
Showing rigg he will be better here and progressing him from when KS came in when rigg was 13, so much rigg signed a contract here rather than went to any number of clubs?
All at a relatively low cost to the club so we are in a great financial position.
Tough crowd
Harvey found these players not Speakman.

Harvey, the man forgotten.
 
No it isn’t.

The two centre half’s are better vs Coventry.
Evans is an actual defensive midfielder.
Stewart is better than Mayenda.

We’re not further forwards. We haven’t replaced adequately.
As above..
We are loads further forward.
Mainly as we buy players to improve.
Unless you think Ballard is the same now as then?
The glaring ommison is a striker.
But this nonsense with batth and Evans , who both played when we lost 6 f***ing nil in league one has actually damaged some of our fans !
Harvey found these players not Speakman.

Harvey, the man forgotten.
Harvey is f***ing shit then as he got in shit strikers.
What are you actually blaming KS for if you think it's all Harvey ?
 
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People say this backwards bit and say we have bought dudds for the last few windows.
It's just thick imo.
Last Sunday we had cirkin , alese (Ballard injured) 09 hume
Clarke Bellingham Neil rigg and Roberts

There are few better players than those that play in this league. They are all worth millions.
Because we haven't been unable to improve on them over the last few windows people think we have gone backwards.
It's fairly hard to improve on young players who are great and worth millions when you don't have millions to spend.
Just cos some were bought in league one , they have had lots of game time. They have improved massively.
I'm not sure what people like you expect - that these players shouldn't be anywhere near the first team and we should have improved on them as we got them in league one?
Bizarre imo

:lol:

Few better in this league.

Remind me where we finished last season.

You’re making massive assumptions about what I do or don’t think.

What’s clear is we’re desperate for a centre half. We’re desperate for a defensive central midfielder. We’re desperate for a centre forward. And with Clarke gone we’re desperate for a winger who is his ability.

I couldn’t give a shite about being a club who buys young lads, improves them and has ‘assets’. I want us to be a competitive force in this division who adds to our squad and recruits where needed.

You say we were in league one as if it’s some kind of yardstick. We were in the Premier League for ten consecutive seasons before that too.
 
:lol:

Few better in this league.

Remind me where we finished last season.

You’re making massive assumptions about what I do or don’t think.

What’s clear is we’re desperate for a centre half. We’re desperate for a defensive central midfielder. We’re desperate for a centre forward. And with Clarke gone we’re desperate for a winger who is his ability.

I couldn’t give a shite about being a club who buys young lads, improves them and has ‘assets’. I want us to be a competitive force in this division who adds to our squad and recruits where needed.

You say we were in league one as if it’s some kind of yardstick. We were in the Premier League for ten consecutive seasons before that too.
If you don't think cirkin , Ballard , 09 , alese , hume in defence
Clarke , Bellingham , rigg, Neil , Browne , poveda and Roberts are competitive and some of the best in the league then I don't value your opinion at all. I doubt anyone would.

We were shit last year as we had stupid managerial fuck ups.
Sheff wed showed , with a similar team , what the difference a manager makes the two times they played us

I mention league one like its a yard stick?
You don't understand my post , which isn't difficult to understand, as I don't do anything of the sort

And center halfs of Ballard 09 alese , with seelt to come back and we're not going to give up on hjelde and midfield of ekwah Neil rigg Bellingham and browne - these positions aren't a priority at all. Clearly!
A striker is

Oh and to be successful you have to have a team that improves..you can't just get players at the top of the game and get rid when theyre past their best.
If you don't give a shite about that then that's another reason that I won't value your opinion.
 
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Name one from a bottom half championship club with comparable numbers from last season who has gone for anything like 40 million. It’s fantasy land.

Rutter from Leeds to Brighton. £40m
Dewsbury Hall to Chelsea. £30m
 
No it isn’t.

The two centre half’s are better vs Coventry.
Evans is an actual defensive midfielder.
Stewart is better than Mayenda.

We’re not further forwards. We haven’t replaced adequately.
The centre halves is your opinion. I’d have Ballard in probably but both cbs are better than batth

Again your opinion that dan Neil isn’t a defensive midfielder even though he’s came out himself and says that’s where he prefers playing and multiple managers have played him there. The overall midfield against shef wed was better too

Stewart I agree on
 
The model is a load of shite anyway, it’s just a load of clap trap we’ve all been sold to excuse not wanting to spend any money and selling our best players.

We’ll see how much of this 11 million gets reinvested into the playing staff.

No doubt most of it already nee swapped up for a new pitch, speakers and floodlights none of us wanted
 
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