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They're in big trouble


Roose Bolton said:
Watched a True Geordie video last night focused more on the dire state of their transfer dealings. Gist was that Pope, Schar, Burn, Trippier, Krafth & Willock are all OOC either this summer or next and Howe's allowed them to reach the point of no sell-on value well spending an average of £50M per player on replacements that are largely inadequate. And that's without factoring in the likes of Tonali, Gordon & the full backs who may ask to leave if the big boys come calling.

Upshot is that they have a huge squad rebuild on their hands, with a manager/recruitment setup that seems incapable of finding bargains and shrinking PSR/SCR wiggle room.

Beaten to it 🤣
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Hard to get bargains when 'Wha that richest clerb in tha worrrld'. After the take over they've had to pay a min 20% more per player than they would normally. Just like after you sell a player for mega bucks, the replacements come at a premium because your negotiation position is worse
 
Ohnonotagain said:
As much as I rate Tonali and Gordon as players, I wouldn’t want them at my club as they seem poisonous, personality wise.
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I wouldn't say they are poisonous in the Joey Barton/ Hadji Diouf sense of the work but Tonali seems seems only interested in going back to Italy and his agent is unsettling and Gordon is a top 8 decent player who seems to think he's a top 4 worldie player. Don't think either are remotely bad additions to your team and wouldn't cause squad disharmony but they're not helping provide that feeling of upwards trajectory which they need to maintain if they really want to be one of the top clubs in the world within 5 years.
 
Tommy Tolpuddle said:
This thread will get bumped to fuck when they finish ahead of us.
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It's about their aspiration to be best club in world though, not to finish one place above Sunderland. We get pelters from them for not being aspiring to anything greater than that while they're planning on world domination.

I don't believe that they're at risk of seeing point deductions anytime soon and they are still a solid top half squad but the fact is they're expecting a level of success that they're not currently set up for, on the pitch to a certain degree but miles away with the non-playing set up.
 
I don't think it matters one iota if they finish above us this season.

If anybody remembers the season during Bruce's fabled 10th place finish, we were sick as f**k that they did the double over us. The fact that we finished slightly above them was a tiny crumb of comfort.

We've done the double over them this season, something which none of us in our wildest dreams could have imagined taking into account the money they've spent etc and no mag would have even thought this was remotely possible when we got promoted.

If any mag tries to big up the achievement of finishing above a newly promoted team then it shows them up for being even more tin-pot than they normally are.
 
I think they need a fast start this summer, and move on players as quickly as possible. That'll work with Tonali, but the other likely wantaways (Liveramento, Gordon, Woltemade) will be focussed on the WC til July. And I suspect there'll also be a lot of noise about players who should be in the ECL - Bruno and Hall, maybe Thiaw too. They'll also have to swallow a massive loss on a few players - Woltemade, Wissa and that Greek keeper for sure, possibly Elanga and Osula too.

What they really need to do is accept that they're in a rebuild mode and sell to buy players who'll serve them for the next 5 years. What's more likely is that they'll repeat the mistakes of last summer and work under the delusion that they're a peer of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U etc. and find themselves getting humiliated throughout the window.

If they start next season with Howe in charge, a couple of first teamers gone and a few others on the verge of going - and all without making any major additions - I think they could be in real trouble. Their squad is full of absolute dross, they're a so-so team that has been carried by some very good individuals. You could see them doing a Spurs in that instance.

That said, they could rake in £200m or so early by punting on 4 or 5 players and build a virtually new starting XI of decent young players. That's what they should do, but I'm not sure their egos would allow for it. Imagine the reaction if the likes of Man U and Liverpool take all their best players. How can you still pretend to be an elite club after that?
 
not spavin said:
I think they need a fast start this summer, and move on players as quickly as possible. That'll work with Tonali, but the other likely wantaways (Liveramento, Gordon, Woltemade) will be focussed on the WC til July. And I suspect there'll also be a lot of noise about players who should be in the ECL - Bruno and Hall, maybe Thiaw too. They'll also have to swallow a massive loss on a few players - Woltemade, Wissa and that Greek keeper for sure, possibly Elanga and Osula too.

What they really need to do is accept that they're in a rebuild mode and sell to buy players who'll serve them for the next 5 years. What's more likely is that they'll repeat the mistakes of last summer and work under the delusion that they're a peer of Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U etc. and find themselves getting humiliated throughout the window.

If they start next season with Howe in charge, a couple of first teamers gone and a few others on the verge of going - and all without making any major additions - I think they could be in real trouble. Their squad is full of absolute dross, they're a so-so team that has been carried by some very good individuals. You could see them doing a Spurs in that instance.

That said, they could rake in £200m or so early by punting on 4 or 5 players and build a virtually new starting XI of decent young players. That's what they should do, but I'm not sure their egos would allow for it. Imagine the reaction if the likes of Man U and Liverpool take all their best players. How can you still pretend to be an elite club after that?
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Liverpool already took one
 
Jabberwocky said:
It's about their aspiration to be best club in world though, not to finish one place above Sunderland. We get pelters from them for not being aspiring to anything greater than that while they're planning on world domination.

I don't believe that they're at risk of seeing point deductions anytime soon and they are still a solid top half squad but the fact is they're expecting a level of success that they're not currently set up for, on the pitch to a certain degree but miles away with the non-playing set up.
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