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The Tifo


AmblerThorn said:
Good q. And who organises them? The club presumably?

Would love to be one of them TIFO unfurlers - 1,2,3 push, then peeping over the top of the stand
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My understanding is the ideas and designs are generated by This Is Wearside. The club then approve them and then send them to the EFL (or the premier league now) for approval. They werent expecting the final design to be approved due to blood on the sword etc but the prem signed it off. Once they receive approval, the process is outsourced to a company that bring the idea to life. I believe that company are responsible for deployment on the day with members of the company attending the match, attaching the ropes and deploying when the time comes. Theyre basically professional crowd display people who provide professional advice on timings etc so it runs like clockwork. I think they had supporters to hold the banners. The creation of banners plus the man power obviously costs a fair whack and could only really be funded via an extremely organised group (who are probably making earnings through questionable means as well as fundraising campaigns) or with the help of the club. Bruce is clearly switched on with fan culture as its a fantastic marketing tool done right.

If This is Wearside are using the same company that we met with as Spirit of 37 then they also do Palace's displays.
 
Doberman said:
My understanding is the ideas and designs are generated by This Is Wearside. The club then approve them and then send them to the EFL (or the premier league now) for approval. They werent expecting the final design to be approved due to blood on the sword etc but the prem signed it off. Once they receive approval, the process is outsourced to a company that bring the idea to life. I believe that company are responsible for deployment on the day with members of the company attending the match, attaching the ropes and deploying when the time comes. Theyre basically professional crowd display people who provide professional advice on timings etc so it runs like clockwork. I think they had supporters to hold the banners. The creation of banners plus the man power obviously costs a fair whack and could only really be funded via an extremely organised group (who are probably making earnings through questionable means as well as fundraising campaigns) or with the help of the club. Bruce is clearly switched on with fan culture as its a fantastic marketing tool done right.

If This is Wearside are using the same company that we met with as Spirit of 37 then they also do Palace's displays.
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Fantastic that you posted this. Thanks!
 
Doberman said:
No problem. Just a bit of insight into the inner workings of a TIFO.

I know they submitted several designs and were pushing the boundaries with blood etc on this one to see how far the prem would allow them to take it.

I suspect they'll be trying similar for a certain fixture in December too.
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That black cat with a bird in it teeth?
 
cornish mackem said:
That black cat with a bird in it teeth?
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No idea and I wouldn't say even if I did. 🤐

I believe yesterday's TIFO was leaked by the catering staff who had been told to avoid taking photos. TIW wanted the 'dress rehearsal' to happen first thing to avoid that possibility but there was a delay and people were in the ground when they deployed it.
 
Doberman said:
My understanding is the ideas and designs are generated by This Is Wearside. The club then approve them and then send them to the EFL (or the premier league now) for approval. They werent expecting the final design to be approved due to blood on the sword etc but the prem signed it off. Once they receive approval, the process is outsourced to a company that bring the idea to life. I believe that company are responsible for deployment on the day with members of the company attending the match, attaching the ropes and deploying when the time comes. Theyre basically professional crowd display people who provide professional advice on timings etc so it runs like clockwork. I think they had supporters to hold the banners. The creation of banners plus the man power obviously costs a fair whack and could only really be funded via an extremely organised group (who are probably making earnings through questionable means as well as fundraising campaigns) or with the help of the club. Bruce is clearly switched on with fan culture as its a fantastic marketing tool done right.

If This is Wearside are using the same company that we met with as Spirit of 37 then they also do Palace's displays.
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Sounds like we won't get a FTM or head choppers ball tiffo for the Mags then 😐
 
Pantomime Mackem said:
First performed at the Tyne Opera House in Westgate Road, Newcastle. Not trying to kill the vibe but at the time there was less Tyne/Wear tribalism. We wanna claim a Co Durham legend? Fine, let’s do it. I just always point out that this particular song isn’t particularly ”Mackem”
Cracking tifo tho but. We have the best tifos in English football
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The song the Lambton Worm is a relatively modern song written in 1867 about a local Durham legend whose origins are so old that they are lost to time. The legend clearly places the story in County Durham and refers directly to the Lambton family and the river Wear. Worm Hill in Fatfield is featured in the traditional story although the song refers to the adjoining Penshaw Hill. Where the popular song about the worm was first performed is quite irrelevant as the story was already a very well known part of local Durham folklore.

Just because Shakespeare's play Macbeth was first performed at the Globe theatre in London it didn't make Macbeth (who was a real Scottish king with a real history) a cockney or even English.

The song itself was written by Jack Leumane (d 1923) who was a Victorian tenor who sang in popular light operas. Interestingly Jack is believed to have been born either in Sunderland or the within town's immediate vicinity.

By the way my birth certificate (issued in the early 1950's) records me as being born in the Borough of Sunderland within the County of Durham. I have therefore never described myself as being anything other than a Durham lad my entire life . It's about time we ditched this Mag devised "Mackem" epithet
 
alicante mackem said:
So are songs not poems.? Do Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Nick Cave, Tom Waits, Billy Bragg etc. not write poems?
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Songs are songs and poems are poems. The Lambton Worm is a song. Of course there are similarities between songwriters and poets... but there output is not the same. Dylan and Springsteen, arguably our most gifted songwriters, are not poets. Nor is Lennon or McCartney.
Marc Bolan wrote a book of "poetry". They were not songs... some might argue they were not poems, either, though the wordplay was cute.
 
The Hunter said:
Songs are songs and poems are poems. The Lambton Worm is a song. Of course there are similarities between songwriters and poets... but there output is not the same. Dylan and Springsteen, arguably our most gifted songwriters, are not poets. Nor is Lennon or McCartney.
Marc Bolan wrote a book of "poetry". They were not songs... some might argue they were not poems, either, though the wordplay was cute.
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Dylan won the Nobel prize for his poetry.
Dylan isn't a poet? :)
Give our man, you sound ridiculous.

Ballads are also poems. The Ballad of the Lambton Worm is a poem. And it is also a song.
 
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