The Staircase
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Thought it was okay. Enjoyed his lawyer.
Didn't think he was guilty but found his chilled attitude to it all quite annoying. Odd bloke.
Didn't think he was guilty but found his chilled attitude to it all quite annoying. Odd bloke.
Joe Public
Striker
She never fell like, she was f***ing mangled, he blatantly beat fuck out of her!
jedi_toaster
Striker
So she was the ONLY case of blunt force trauma in hundreds previously that suffered no fracturing of the skull? The only thing that points to her being bashed was how it initially looked. None of the forensic evidence backed it up.
He was/is just achingly middle-class. I quite liked him but I can definitely see how people could think he’s weird.
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bigmarlon
Winger
I flip-flopped between episodes whether he was guilty or innocent. I still can't decide. Tbf I don't think we saw ALL the evidence. The 911 call seemed false imo, and 7 cuts to her head is mental for a fall down the stairs. But, where's the weapon? Where are the defensive wounds?
Fuck nars what happened.
Tex
Striker
I remember this case on an episode of American Justice.
Thought he was guilty as sin. Didn’t he off his ex the exact same way?
Weird stuff about a conjoined / adoptive family, some of which support him, others hate him?
And he was rumbled being into rough gay porn?
But when they inteviewed him in the nick he likes it in there. Maybe all his rough gay fantasies are enacted on a nightly basis?
Just very weird.
Thought he was guilty as sin. Didn’t he off his ex the exact same way?
Weird stuff about a conjoined / adoptive family, some of which support him, others hate him?
And he was rumbled being into rough gay porn?
But when they inteviewed him in the nick he likes it in there. Maybe all his rough gay fantasies are enacted on a nightly basis?
Just very weird.
bigmarlon
Winger
I started watching Making a Murderer last night and it's boring af compared to this. I'm 4 episodes in and it's mostly just filler. They could have condensed the whole thing into 1 episode.
The Staircase was much better imo like. I haven't watched 'The Keepers' yet (same makers) but I might just ditch this MaM shite and start watching that.
It's either one big coincidence or he'd found a way to kill people and get away with it by doing it on a staircae and calling it a "fall".
Unless he confesses on his deathbed we'll never know.
The Staircase was much better imo like. I haven't watched 'The Keepers' yet (same makers) but I might just ditch this MaM shite and start watching that.
Both lasses were found at the bottom of a staircase dead. The first woman, his neighbours wife and mother of his adopted kids, died from an anurism according to the Germans but the DA tried to dispute that in this case and say it was murder.
It's either one big coincidence or he'd found a way to kill people and get away with it by doing it on a staircae and calling it a "fall".
Unless he confesses on his deathbed we'll never know.
Making a Murderer was shit imo. Just didn't find that interesting at all. If you'd listened to that first series of Serial and then watched MAM you'd struggle to get into it I reckon, it's not even in the same league.
The Keepers was just depressing. Good, but bleak.
Struggling to see what his sexuality has to do with anything. Unless his fantasy was to bray old lasses all over at the bottom of staircases.
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bigmarlon
Winger
The theory was his Mrs had found out he was gay, they'd argued, then he battered her with a blunt object. All speculation of course. It also went against his defense that they had a "perfect marriage".
The judge even agreed before the 2nd trial (which never happened) that the gay stuff on his computer can't be used in trial because it taints his image. "He looked at HARDCORE GAY PORN! Lock him up!".
Pricey
Central Defender
Those were my thoughts, I couldn't believe all the blood from falling down the stairs and those wounds man
But if you ever watch MMA or boxing those cuts to the head bleed like fuck and I thought perhaps she had old papery skin that split easy, the evidence that never had there been a blunt force trauma autopsy without skull fractures was compelling though.
I think the most profound bit was where he said he was sad that the truth didn't matter anymore, it was about his defence beating their prosecution and that is how it played out, no one seemed to care about the truth, they played dirty tricks against each other in order to get the win, not to get to the truth, same thing happens in making a murderer imo.
Joe Public
Striker
On time served, he made an Alford plea to charge of manslaughter.
AndrewP
Striker
Oh aye. Forgot about that. It was a while ago now
Nookie Bear
Winger
Agree , just watching the final episode now and I skipped a few as lost interest - too drawn out , similar to season 2 of making of a murderer
bu-bu-buchanon
Striker
Definitely not in the same league as MaM in my opinion. But you got the impression late on in the series that, like MaM, a lot of stuff that possibly wasn’t in his favour, didn’t make the editors cut. Somehow I completely missed the owl theory. Where did that come in ???
Nookie Bear
Winger
bu-bu-buchanon
Striker
Was it in the series though ? I keep reading about it now, but genuinely didn’t hear it and I had thought I wa spaying attention
Will have a butchers now - cheers for the link
Nookie Bear
Winger
Was it in the series though ? I keep reading about it now, but genuinely didn’t hear it and I had thought I wa spaying attention
Will have a butchers now - cheers for the link
I skipped a couple of episodes between the original verdict and the last one so it might have been mentioned then ?
bu-bu-buchanon
Striker
To be honest that was the bit that dragged so I could well have zoned out at that point
