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Stattos child said:
Some people have wanted this to fail for the wrong reasons
i am against 100 format should have been franchise t20, with games shared around eg north playing at Leeds and durham
however to blame test form on this tournament is ridiculous, test team has been in decline for a number of years, think we are going through a trough of talent (all nations do this at some time), we need to look at timings of white ball cricket etc could royal London be in September (floodlit and normally dry) allowing red ball to continue in summer months.
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Pretty much this! Having 2 short form tournaments in the calendar now is too jarring.

Edit: I do think a big part of the problem with the test team is having our best players play too much T20. Also, I’d play the group stage of the RLC in 2 windows either side of the T20 window. Semis in August and final in September.

Also; I don’t think the 6 weeks holidays is the best time to have a T20 tournament.
 
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brandon said:
You sure about that?

“Between June 6 and August 30 - so, in essence, summer - the domestic cricket schedule has had room for six days with the red ball.”




Sort of contradict yourself. 🤷‍♂️



It isn’t. I’ve made the point a few times that I actually think some of the propaganda with the 16.4 would make Kim Jong Il blush. I think even he would feel like it was a step too far.
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Brandon don’t know the stats as well as you but how much red ball cricket have India played in that period. Don’t think it is huge which suggests the issue to me is bigger than 1 summer
 
Stattos child said:
Not at all the current demise of test cricket nothing to do with 100, could be the focus on winning World Cup mind. Therefore I dont contradict myself as my second comment is about balance between white ball and red ball and nothing to do with 100.
i know you hate ecb for what they did to durham(and hard to disagree) but like I say the 100 has nothing to do with lack of a quality spinner, lack of any top 3 batsmen and poor captaincy of root. Years of red ball neglect however does and the riches available worldwide for players to be better at white ball than red ball
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It has however got a massive thing to do about restricting woefully out of form players from going and playing red ball county cricket during this Test Series.
Stattos child said:
Brandon don’t know the stats as well as you but how much red ball cricket have India played in that period. Don’t think it is huge which suggests the issue to me is bigger than 1 summer
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More than us ;)
 
brandon said:
It has however got a massive thing to do about restricting woefully out of form players from going and playing red ball county cricket during this Test Series.


More than us ;)
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Are they temporarily out of form or just not good enough due to years of red ball neglect. Lack of red ball not affecting root. If it’s all down too 100 then which top class test performers have made their debuts for us in last 5 years prior to 100. Could argue archer but struggling after that
 
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Stattos child said:
Are they temporarily out of form or just not good enough
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That’s the million pound question. I suspect with most they aren’t good enough, but they all deserve at the very least a chance to prove that.

Someone like Crawley for example would’ve really benefited from going back to Kent and playing a couple of Championship games (potentially four innings’) to try and find some form. Same with Burns/Sibley/Pope/Lawrence/etc.
The Rat said:
I genuinely saw virtually none of this

I wasn't doing it out of protest either I just didn't get attracted to it

Not sure what that tells you.

It will probably have been a success like, but any tournament would have with this promotion
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I didn’t seek it out, but as I spend a fair bit of my time in cricket and football clubs with tellys it was inevitable I’d ‘bump’ into it. Can honestly say not one person I know was any more interested in it than they would be for a Durham or England game.

Plenty of remarks about the ridiculousness of the graphics though.
 
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brandon said:
That’s the million pound question. I suspect with most they aren’t good enough, but they all deserve at the very least a chance to prove that.

Someone like Crawley for example would’ve really benefited from going back to Kent and playing a couple of Championship games (potentially four innings’) to try and find some form. Same with Burns/Sibley/Pope/Lawrence/etc.
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Whilst I agree to a certain extent going back to playing sub standard red ball would not have helped techniques which are exposed at highest level (flat track bullies etc), central contracts lack of quality overseas (due to year round internationals and franchise) has really diluted standard of red ball. i Don’t have the answer of how to address this, ultimately we might just have a bad crop (it can go in cycles) only need 2 or 3 standout performers in a generation and it can lift whole team, I think for example if stokes Swann and trescothick (just using as example) added to this side we would win and see likes of burns pope etc performing better as well. Don’t think sibley, Crawley or Lawrence good enough
 
Stattos child said:
Whilst I agree to a certain extent going back to playing sub standard red ball would not have helped techniques which are exposed at highest level (flat track bullies etc), central contracts lack of quality overseas (due to year round internationals and franchise) has really diluted standard of red ball. i Don’t have the answer of how to address this, ultimately we might just have a bad crop (it can go in cycles) only need 2 or 3 standout performers in a generation and it can lift whole team, I think for example if stokes Swann and trescothick (just using as example) added to this side we would win and see likes of burns pope etc performing better as well. Don’t think sibley, Crawley or Lawrence good enough
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Some would argue central contracts were the catalyst for our success during the Fletcher years and then on to the Flower years…
 
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The Rat said:
It will probably have been a success like, but any tournament would have with this promotion
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No chance. The short format is appealing, whether people on here want to accept it or not.

100 is progress, and yes it’s corny in comparison to Test cricket, but that’s what the average Joe wants. Not everyone can sit on their arse for 5 days straight to follow one match.
 
PeteFTM said:
No chance. The short format is appealing, whether people on here want to accept it or not.

100 is progress, and yes it’s corny in comparison to Test cricket, but that’s what the average Joe wants. Not everyone can sit on their arse for 5 days straight to follow one match.
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Eh?

I dunno what you are on about here like, we have a T20 competition already, wth the same promotion it would have been the saame

why are you talking about test cricket?
PeteFTM said:
But it’s not as marketable. Progress has been made.
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:lol:Yes it is

its also incredibly successful, with massive crowds, bigger than the hundred.
 
PeteFTM said:
What are you basing that on? I’m basing my point on facts, so I’m curious.
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No you aren't.

You dont seem to be aware of the T20, and are comparing the 100 to test cricket.

The Blast has been a hugely successful tournament and has sell out crowds all over the country,

the fact that the ECB didn't wanna spend money on it is there own problem

you are going on like the 100 has brought short form cricket to the UK, it was already here and was incredibly popular
 
brandon said:
Plenty of remarks about the ridiculousness of the graphics though.
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The graphics are one of the things which need changing and they are also easy to fix. In scoreboards used in the ground (I actually went to 2 games) aren't too bad but the TV versions make it very hard to workout what the score is just by glancing at the screen. You have the numbers for runs, wickets and balls all in different parts of the screen.
 
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