The craic in the USA
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bahtat
Striker
Not sure what the reasoning was behind the change and maybe it’s me but results seem to be trickling through on Worldometer very very slowly, much slower than normal
White House tells hospitals to bypass CDC on COVID-19 data reporting
Hospitals will begin sending coronavirus-related information directly to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), not the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), under new instr…thehill.com
comments @Epping you follow that site more closely than me
Scorer
Striker
Are they not currently having significantly higher “flu” deaths being recorded than would usually be the case? That’s pretty suspicious in itself.
Just checked and they were 0.1% away from epidemic flu level in February so high flu deaths could be genuine but more likely misdiagnosed Covid imo.
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englishman abroad
Striker
Trump's administration wants to suppress the numbers, whats a few 000's more dead people & 000,000's more infected people compared to Trumps re-election.
He's committing genocide in plain sight
SYB_DC
Winger
Part of it is that testing is extremely backlogged. Where I live, results are taking 5 days even for first responders. For the general public, it's more like 9-10. That's so slow as to be pretty much useless.
englishman abroad
Striker
One Trump loyalist governor orders a state wide order to wear masks
Another was at his Tulsa rally and has contracted Covid
Another was at his Tulsa rally and has contracted Covid
rudd
Striker
Seen the polling for Texas and even the conservative One America News only has trump up by two points, most others have Biden edging it. If he can't win Texas he has no hope of winning the election. Can't help but feel his leadership and the partisan supporters of him have sadly contributed to the deaths there.
RichB
Winger
Maybe in February it would be genuine not now - our lab in March/ April was testing for flu/ Covid on swabs and now only does Covid as flu season is well over
I havent seen the figures but if there are high flu deaths being reported then that is suspicious
I think Florida has registered more than 4 times the flu numbers than what they would normally get in a year
englishman abroad
Striker
Do you think the Trump administration is skewing the death toll? numbers don't reflect the rate of infections
SYB_DC
Winger
I think the biggest reason is that the recent wave is so recent that people haven't died yet. I think they're preparing to cook the books, not that they've done it yet. There's a lot of suggestion that Florida has been messing with numbers on the state level, as has Georgia.
I think certain states are.. Florida being one of them
rudd
Striker
That's terrible! Are people generally isolating after the test before results?
englishman abroad
Striker
Walmart announced it would require masks at all of its stores. The CEO of Walmart, the world’s largest retailer, said the new policy would take effect on Monday.
Walmart will need riot police to enforce this
Walmart will need riot police to enforce this
SYB_DC
Winger
I don't know. At this point if I got sick I wouldn't even bother to get tested. Either I'd get better on my own or it'd put me in the hospital by the time the results got back. (And where I live, you can't get a test without a referral from a physician anyway, so obviously if you are getting tested you are sick; the test results from my area therefore include zero asymptomatic cases.)
Curlyteeth
Midfield
Do we have excess death figures for the states. Harder to hide stuff with them surely?
HE's trying to oust Fauci, there's a concerted effort to get rid of the experts and artificially reduce the reported numbers before the election.
Beat me to it.
THey've actually been one of the first around here to stipulate no entry without a mask. My two local stores did this months ago.
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cases have been in excess of 30k a day and rising to 60+ cases a day for over a month now yet deaths are still running around 600 day average and there are no signs thats its going up as of yet-- you would have thought 30-40k cases daily a month ago would now be showing a rise by now
SYB_DC
Winger
A case from a month ago is - in many places - not apples to apples with a March case. Testing was so bad in March that even pretty sick people weren't getting tested. Generally the threshold is much lower now (where I live notwithstanding, which I understand from people elsewhere is a genuine outlier). In other words, the death rate measured today is probably a lot closer, and the total caseload in March/April was probably much higher than the stats reported.
Improvements in treatment matter, healthier demographics in recent cases matter, but I'll bet you'll see a fairly substantial rise in the next few weeks. Not back up to 2000+, but we'll see a few days around 14-1500, I'd guess.
Also, I'm not sure your premise is right. At the end of June, weekday death totals were around 700 per day. They're now in the mid-900s fairly consistently.
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