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The Ashes - Fifth Test, The Oval

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From Cricinfo:

Darren Lehmann: "I don't advocate scoring quickly but when you're going at just over 2 an over then that's just blatant cheating." Careful, Darren, you are already 20% down in this match.
 
From Cricinfo:

Darren Lehmann: "I don't advocate scoring quickly but when you're going at just over 2 an over then that's just blatant cheating." Careful, Darren, you are already 20% down in this match.
He is obviously one cork short of one of those hats.[DOUBLEPOST=1377279059][/DOUBLEPOST]
County Averages ffs. How many players had cracking county averages but not made the step up for England? Neil Fairbrother springs to mind.

Anyone who doesn't think Flintoff in his prime was world class is either on glue or got an anti-Fred chip on his shoulder. (Admittedly shocking at start and end of his career)
And therefore not world class. Remember the old saying re form/class?
 
anyone listening to TMS?
Aggers: "Did you see the Massai warriors Geoffrey?"
Boycott: "I did! I saw you on the television. Chelsea'll probably sign them."
Aggers: "They're cricketers, Geoffrey."
Boycott: "I don't care, they sign anybody different."
:eek:
:lol:
They had quite an amusing 20 minutes together there actually. Aggers saying it was like the good old days of test cricket with Boycott batting.
 
This.

Must've been one of the least inspiring Ashes series in living memory: dull pitches, turgid batting and long periods of negative tactics and poor bowling.

Anyone who can remember the 80's and 90's can give you 10 series worse than this one.

Have a look back through the threads and you'll see lots of people getting very excited, it's been a good series.
 
I can't imagine many full days of test cricket have been 215-4 in the recent past.[DOUBLEPOST=1377280593][/DOUBLEPOST]
This.

Must've been one of the least inspiring Ashes series in living memory: dull pitches, turgid batting and long periods of negative tactics and poor bowling.

I can't believe the amount of people who are whinging when we are beating the Aussies 3-0! Would people prefer us to go back to getting tonked every couple of years off them, just to see some attacking batsmen?

We're batting slowly to not give them a sniff of winning a test. People would be up in arms if they had come out swinging from the hip and getting out to stupid shots.
 
Anyone who can remember the 80's and 90's can give you 10 series worse than this one.

Have a look back through the threads and you'll see lots of people getting very excited, it's been a good series.

Funny things opinions. England have been enormously under par and I can't remember captaincy and batting this negative in quite some time
 
I can't imagine many full days of test cricket have been 215-4 in the recent past.[DOUBLEPOST=1377280593][/DOUBLEPOST]

I can't believe the amount of people who are whinging when we are beating the Aussies 3-0! Would people prefer us to go back to getting tonked every couple of years off them, just to see some attacking batsmen?

We're batting slowly to not give them a sniff of winning a test. People would be up in arms if they had come out swinging from the hip and getting out to stupid shots.

It's always extremes on this board isn't it? What happened to working the field? How many times have Clarke and the bowlers had to alter their fields and tactics because the England batsmen have been working the field and nurgling singles? You don't have to be gung ho to keep the scoreboard ticking and irritate the opposition. This is not playing to win: tactics and selections have resulted in a poor spectacle.
 
Been at work all day but imagine play was less than exciting. However, as someone who has criticised many English Test batsmen for findng ridiculously expansive ways of throwing away their wickets, there is some satisfaction in watching a disciplined effort that will no doubt annoy the hell out of our opponents.
 
I can't imagine many full days of test cricket have been 215-4 in the recent past.
The first day's test cricket I attended, at Edgbaston in 1973, the Windies batted all day for 190-5, in 98 overs too. This was Sobers, Lloyd, Kallicharran, Kanhai, and Fredericks who batted all day for 98*.

I can't believe the amount of people who are whinging when we are beating the Aussies 3-0! Would people prefer us to go back to getting tonked every couple of years off them, just to see some attacking batsmen?

We're batting slowly to not give them a sniff of winning a test. People would be up in arms if they had come out swinging from the hip and getting out to stupid shots.
On the other hand people might have wanted to see a team that has been mostly dominant for the last two Ashes series trying to take the initiative rather than crawling back into their shell when things don't go their way, especially after all the talk about going all out for a 4-0 win. Australia in their prime would certainly have been trying to win this test, remember Adelaide 2006?

And then of course there's their responsibility to provide decent entertainment to people who have taken the trouble and paid upwards of £100 to go and watch them. Anybody who booed last night would probably have been criticised for not understanding the game or something.
 
It's test cricket. People have been fed too much on 50/40/20 over cricket in recent years and in true 'want it now' society some would probably have been happy for England to be 320 all out before tea as long as it was entertaining. As soon as Aus put 492 on the board (which took the best part of 2 days remember) there was only going to be one outcome.
 
It's test cricket. People have been fed too much on 50/40/20 over cricket in recent years and in true 'want it now' society some would probably have been happy for England to be 320 all out before tea as long as it was entertaining. As soon as Aus put 492 on the board (which took the best part of 2 days remember) there was only going to be one outcome.

Yes, negativity ;-)
 
Batting to save a Test, fine by me. 2.5 an over used to be the norm.
Batting to save a Test why? Because England never took the game seriously from the off, what with choosing a different team clearly just as an experiment. Could have won 4-0-when's the last time England won an Ashes series 4-0? We're batting to get ourselves out of a whole we dug for ourselves, and we had to slow the over rate when bowling to a stupid degree for the same reason. It's cool though because this is how people used to play cricket 40 years ago so no worries there.[DOUBLEPOST=1377337039][/DOUBLEPOST]
It's test cricket. People have been fed too much on 50/40/20 over cricket in recent years and in true 'want it now' society some would probably have been happy for England to be 320 all out before tea as long as it was entertaining. As soon as Aus put 492 on the board (which took the best part of 2 days remember) there was only going to be one outcome.
You talk as uf you're an expert on Test cricket yet you obviously haven't seen any for a while if you think that this is the norm. Pretty much everyone, including Aggers at al, have noted that yesterday was an exception to the rule as to how Tests go these days. It might be how Tests used to be played but I've not seen one as negative and slow for probably a decade involving any if the major six sides.
 
It's test cricket.
Think about what that means. We are failing the test by blocking every ball and not bothering to play any cricket, in fact actively trying to avoid playing the required amount of cricket by slowing the over rate. It's no test, and it's not cricket.

And to all the ones that say it's how test cricket used to be played, they used to play on uncovered pitches folks. On the grounds they play on today there is no excuse for this shit. Listen to Geoffrey, he really knows his stuff.[DOUBLEPOST=1377339155][/DOUBLEPOST]
As soon as Aus put 492 on the board (which took the best part of 2 days remember) there was only going to be one outcome.
When England put 551 on the board at Adelaide, which took the best part of 2 days remember and in 40 more overs than in this match, Australia played positively and won the match.
 
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