Thatcher Dead.

[Feenix]

Arguable. The term itself has been around since the late 30s. The US intervention in Chile after the assassination of Allende by the CIA is often put forward as the first major implementation of it - led by the 'Chicago Boys'.

Reported for being off topic and for not using 'neoliberal' in a post.

 

[John Steed]

Bump

Still dead

Yes.
If only she had died last good Friday, she would have been resurrected Easter Sunday.

 

[Frijj]

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[monkeytassle]

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by idiots for idiots.

 

[LeicesterMackem]

Reported for being off topic and for not using 'neoliberal' in a post.

Sorry It's just that I've been reading a lot about it recently for a thing I'm doing. It's a bit of an obsession at the moment. I'll move on to something else soon and bore the fuck out of everyone with that instead.

 

[Locke's SAFC]

It's the dominant ideology across the world. There Is No Alternative. The more people understand, the greater the chance to fight back, but I'm not holding my breath.

Just out of curiosity, and I know at some point I'm going to regret asking this, what exactly is 'neo-Liberalism'?

 

[makum102]

"There is no such thing as society" - Margaret Thatcher, 1988

"There is no such thing as Margaret Thatcher" - Society, 2013

 

[Locke's SAFC]

Sorry It's just that I've been reading a lot about it recently for a thing I'm doing. It's a bit of an obsession at the moment. I'll move on to something else soon and bore the fuck out of everyone with that instead.

I thought so. You've read a few chapters of a book and now you think you're Noam Chomsky. Truth be known, you've probably been reading Chomsky.

Did he mention 'economic disaster'? Did you bother to look out of the window and see the houses still standing and the cows grazing?

 

[John Steed]

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Classic poetry always brings a tear to my eye.
He rhymed pricks with politics, beautiful.

 

[Locke's SAFC]

"There is no such thing as society" - Margaret Thatcher, 1988

Margaret Thatcher didn't say that.

It was another conservative who said that, and he was male.

And, only a dullard would take it to mean that he meant 'there is no such thing as society' without any sort of context.

What he said, and meant when placed in context, is that when it comes to where responsibility lies, it rests with you - there is no society to share the risk of failure. Society does not make or break you.

 

[North of the Smoke]

Margaret Thatcher didn't say that.

It was another conservative who said that, and he was male.

And, only a dullard would take it to mean that he meant 'there is no such thing as society' without any sort of context.

What he said, and meant when placed in context, is that when it comes to where responsibility lies, it rests with you - there is no society to share the risk of failure. Society does not make or break you.

Did you add the context for him / her / it?

Why would you need to add context to a politicians statement?

 

[Locke's SAFC]

Did you add the context for him / her / it?

Why would you need to add context to a politicians statement?

Mate, you can't be that dense.

Those words were part of a wider statement/article.

 

[North of the Smoke]

Mate, you can't be that dense.

Those words were part of a wider statement/article.

Fantastic! I am trying to keep up with your intellect to be fair.

 

[Market Where?]

Margaret Thatcher didn't say that.

It was another conservative who said that, and he was male.

And, only a dullard would take it to mean that he meant 'there is no such thing as society' without any sort of context.

What he said, and meant when placed in context, is that when it comes to where responsibility lies, it rests with you - there is no society to share the risk of failure. Society does not make or break you.

Good points - except she did say it.

 

[Mr Vertigo]

Mate, you can't be that dense.

Those words were part of a wider statement/article.

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

Enough context?

 

[emmett grogan]

Mate, you can't be that dense.

Those words were part of a wider statement/article.

Link please

 

[monkeytassle]

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

Enough context?

probably kick off again but i'm struggling to find a fault with that.

 

[tiptoad]

Margaret Thatcher didn't say that.

It was another conservative who said that, and he was male.

And, only a dullard would take it to mean that he meant 'there is no such thing as society' without any sort of context.

What he said, and meant when placed in context, is that when it comes to where responsibility lies, it rests with you - there is no society to share the risk of failure. Society does not make or break you.

Yes she did:

"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours." – in an interview in Women's Own in 1987

Now what was that you were saying about people being dense?

 

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."

Enough context?

I was saying this to the disabled kid over the road today

 

[Mr Redknapp]

Margaret Thatcher didn't say that.

It was another conservative who said that, and he was male.

And, only a dullard would take it to mean that he meant 'there is no such thing as society' without any sort of context.

What he said, and meant when placed in context, is that when it comes to where responsibility lies, it rests with you - there is no society to share the risk of failure. Society does not make or break you.

so shes getting blamed for someone else's cock-ups now