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so if they work at msd bow and msd isnt a hedge fund..that means they dont work at a hedge fund now? so they arent currently hedge fund managers?

They’ve a background in hedge fund management. I speculated whether Methven’s mutual contact may have been Short given his background in hedge funds also. You said they weren’t hedge fund people. They are or have been
 
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That's down to the parachute payment of course
ah i see..fair enough..I woldnt count the para in for operating profit purposes..though of course one can do..i would regard para as an exceptional item...not part of the operaing income for accounting...though of course one can count it..
 
if afc isnt worth more than £150m in ten years then someone fucked up badly..

but even that..wouldnt be that useful a rate of return..if your assuming they put money in?
even if they put in £20m and paid £40m thats £60m in..for a £90m profit over ten years..or 9 per cent pa..which isnt outanding..its only decent..

i would expect them to make much more f they do it right..
That’s also not including making any profit from sales. The one area SAFC have been horrible at...we can’t keep missing in the transfer market.
 
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So are you forgetting the trade deal that the country has between Britain and USA the day after brexit that’s been reported the last week.

So you’re saying they will be no trade deal between uk and USA despite both leaders admitting that it’s going to happen the day after brexit.

The US Congress has the control and statutory power under The US Constitution to block and amend any treaty, agreement. It is “Opposition to Trump” controlled by The Democratic Party and has. PUBLICLY AND FORMALLY ANNOUNCED its policy with regard to any Trade Agreement negotiated ratification depending upon “The Irish Border arrangement” and a No Deal scenario. This has been widely reported over the past weeks, I picked it up first of all in a Radio News report which featured the interview with the Congressional leader of The Democrats - so what I am saying is it doesn’t matter what agreement is reached by the 2 leaders, or their negotiating teams, it has to be ratified by BOTH THE CONGRESS and SENATE Houses before it can be enacted and the Leader of The Congress has PUBLICLY stated that depending upon the outcome of BREXIT, they will block any agreement.
 
They’ve a background in hedge fund management. I speculated whether Methven’s mutual contact may have been Short given his background in hedge funds also. You said they weren’t hedge fund people. They are or have been
if ellis knew them..why didnt he just you know, sell the club to them when thete was a few quid in it for him?
ellis worked in asia didnt he? and at different firms to these guys?
 
a simple suppostion could be this
buy safc £50m ... spend £80-100m to get into the PL
value of the club could be anything upto £250m+

That’s what I think. Get the management right to where we actually make a profit with transfers instead of baring our ass every year and it’s very doable.
 
That’s what I think. Get the management right to where we actually make a profit with transfers instead of baring our ass every year and it’s very doable.
which clubs make a profit from transfers regularly over the past decade and went dfroward asa club?
sours may be the only one..
 
In 10 years SAFC could be worth 150 million. Every investment has a risk and a reward attached.

These fellas wouldn’t waste their time turning 50m into 150m over 10 years. One of them buys paintings worth that

As others have said there are other motivations at work here, SAFC isn’t going to make any material difference to their level of wealth. Such is its scale that it just won’t!!!!

And that’s a very very good thing
 
These fellas wouldn’t waste their time turning 50m into 150m over 10 years. One of them buys paintings worth that

As others have said there are other motivations at work here, SAFC isn’t going to make any material difference to their level of wealth. Such is its scale that it just won’t!!!!

And that’s a very very good thing
turning 300pc retur in ten years is eaxctly what they do..its astyle of investing..consistent returns year on year..the value of which is measured reative to the retuns on cash..
 
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The US Congress has the control and statutory power under The US Constitution to block and amend any treaty, agreement. It is “Opposition to Trump” controlled by The Democratic Party and has. PUBLICLY AND FORMALLY ANNOUNCED its policy with regard to any Trade Agreement negotiated ratification depending upon “The Irish Border arrangement” and a No Deal scenario. This has been widely reported over the past weeks, I picked it up first of all in a Radio News report which featured the interview with the Congressional leader of The Democrats - so what I am saying is it doesn’t matter what agreement is reached by the 2 leaders, or their negotiating teams, it has to be ratified by BOTH THE CONGRESS and SENATE Houses before it can be enacted and the Leader of The Congress has PUBLICLY stated that depending upon the outcome of BREXIT, they will block any agreement.
So that makes two reports of trade deal being ratified or trade deal being blocked by congress, you’re actually saying it won’t happen for definite where in fact unless you know more than trump and boris then you don’t know what will happen like the rest of us. Just like this takeover of ours and I’m the happiest I’ve been for years about our football club no one knows until it happens so there’s really no point on speculating and bringing brexit into it.
 
These fellas wouldn’t waste their time turning 50m into 150m over 10 years. One of them buys paintings worth that

As others have said there are other motivations at work here, SAFC isn’t going to make any material difference to their level of wealth. Such is its scale that it just won’t!!!!

And that’s a very very good thing

This isn’t their only investment...do 100 of these and what’s your return.
 
turning 300pc retur in ten years is eaxctly what they do..its astyle of investing..consistent returns year on year..the value of which is measured reative to the retuns on cash..

I know, I get that - but the scale isn’t big enough financially to make it worthwhile

It’s about legacy, competitiveness, challenge and a bit of fun IMO

Time will tell, but the numbers are relatively irrelevant in their financial worlds
This isn’t their only investment...do 100 of these and what’s your return.

You know and I know that this is different to any normal investment - hence why it will be as individuals rather than through the investment company, there’s your clue
 
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I know, I get that - but the scale isn’t big enough financially to make it worthwhile

It’s about legacy, competitiveness, challenge and a bit of fun IMO

Time will tell, but the numbers are relatively irrelevant in their financial worlds


You know and I know that this is different to any normal investment - hence why it will be as individuals rather than through the investment company, there’s your clue

You think they’re doing this just to fuck around? I doubt it...they obviously see potential.
 
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