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Takeover News/Rumours - Part 42

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The Cabbage said:
The change in structure was important as firstly it’s the right structure - with seemingly highly rated people chosen. Secondly it’s completely opposed to everything that Donald said he wanted in the way to run a club. It was a really good signal that he was out. This is really bad news today. It still has chance to work - as I say it’s 100% the right thing for Safc to do - but equally it’s now gonna be tainted by association to that utter f***ing failure. Something that should be a positive is now spoiled by Donald’s endless ego.
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He obviously decided to change things up in the summer when he appointed rodwell, resigned as chairman and sacked all his mates. Maybe this is another of those sweeping changes.
 

The Beautiful Game said:
He obviously decided to change things up in the summer when he appointed rodwell, resigned as chairman and sacked all his mates. Maybe this is another of those sweeping changes.
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I don’t for a second believe that these changes are driven by him. He doesn’t possess the football understanding nor the gumption to actually sack Hill and Coton. What I do think is happening is that he’s trying to rehabilitate his own standing by grabbing the coat tails of others. He’s completely underestimated the ill-feeling that the fans rightly have for him - and he’s poisoned the new structure in the process. More abject failure from The Dope.
 
The Cabbage said:
I don’t for a second believe that these changes are driven by him. He doesn’t possess the football understanding nor the gumption to actually sack Hill and Coton. What I do think is happening is that he’s trying to rehabilitate his own standing by grabbing the coat tails of others. He’s completely underestimated the ill-feeling that the fans rightly have for him - and he’s poisoned the new structure in the process. More abject failure from The Dope.
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Maybe rodwell then?
 
The Cabbage said:
The change in structure was important as firstly it’s the right structure - with seemingly highly rated people chosen. Secondly it’s completely opposed to everything that Donald said he wanted in the way to run a club. It was a really good signal that he was out. This is really bad news today. It still has chance to work - as I say it’s 100% the right thing for Safc to do - but equally it’s now gonna be tainted by association to that utter f***ing failure. Something that should be a positive is now spoiled by Donald’s endless ego.
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Seemingly highly rated by who though? Speakman may be fair enough; I’m open minded to that. He’s inexperienced at anything like the role he’s taking on here but he has a moderately successful record at Birmingham with youth development. Lee Johnson is a different matter. He has very little in the way of a good track record, doesn’t come with a ringing endorsement from clubs he’s previously managed and he wasn’t even our first choice (if the sages of this forum, the other forum and local journalists are correct)
The Beautiful Game said:
Maybe rodwell then?
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Rodwell, Jones, Sloanes, Donald and Methven. Certainly Rodwell driving it.
 
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The Beautiful Game said:
Are we still negative idiots?


And Johnson has given an insight into the talks he had with Speakman, owner
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"The ownership group had an idea and a vision on their future plans for Sunderland and it was presented to me over the course of a couple of hours," he said.

"Stewart is obviously involved in that, and I've had good conversations with Stewart.

f***ing hell you’re right!
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He refers to Donald and the ownership group as two separate entities!
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Seemingly highly rated by who though? Speakman may be fair enough; I’m open minded to that. He’s inexperienced at anything like the role he’s taking on here but he has a moderately successful record at Birmingham with youth development. Lee Johnson is a different matter. He has very little in the way of a good track record, doesn’t come with a ringing endorsement from clubs he’s previously managed and he wasn’t even our first choice (if the sages of this forum, the other forum and local journalists are correct)


Rodwell, Jones, Sloanes, Donald and Methven. Certainly Rodwell driving it.
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Speakman is highly rated in football circles. The Johnson appointment too is generally looked on favourably outside of an SR postcode. Young, progressive coach drops down a league from his ‘natural’ level to take on a new project. Whatever reservations we may have about it, from the viewpoint of the rest of the football world that isn’t a typical Stewart Donald appointment.
 
darius said:
He refers to Donald and the ownership group as two separate entities!
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No he doesn’t, and if he did he’d be wrong as Donald is still going to have a decent wedge.
The Cabbage said:
Certainly the clear-out. Not the new structure, though, as it doesn’t report to him.
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He could be advising Donald though. Just because he’s not a direct report doesn’t mean it’s not his idea.
 
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The Beautiful Game said:
No he doesn’t, and if he did he’d be wrong as Donald is still going to have a decent wedge.

He could be advising Donald though. Just because he’s not a direct report doesn’t mean it’s not his idea.
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He says something about talking to Stewart and talking to the ownership group about plans and him being part of that.
The Beautiful Game said:
Are we still negative idiots?


And Johnson has given an insight into the talks he had with Speakman, owner
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, and chief executive
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, before taking the job.

"The ownership group had an idea and a vision on their future plans for Sunderland and it was presented to me over the course of a couple of hours," he said.

"Stewart is obviously involved in that, and I've had good conversations with Stewart.

f***ing hell you’re right!
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You quoted it!
 
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The Beautiful Game said:
No he doesn’t, and if he did he’d be wrong as Donald is still going to have a decent wedge.

He could be advising Donald though. Just because he’s not a direct report doesn’t mean it’s not his idea.
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Still don’t really see it. Donald is too much of a dope. Things like the KLD like on Insta for the speakman appointment are circumstantial but show where this is coming from. To me this is a clear attempt for Donald to ride on the coattails of the new lot and their driving of change. It has the feel of a press briefing. It’s entirely in keeping with a fella who has a massive ego but not a single original idea nor anything positive to contribute - and no self-awareness whatsoever. The talk of a ‘fakeover’ will now reach crescendo. They need to get this ownership change done and get a clear press release out ASAP - but now all that will do is mitigate the damage. What a colossal prick Donald is, man.
 
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The Beautiful Game said:
He talks about the ownership group of which Donald is a part of :confused:
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He has two separate conversations, one with the ownership group, then with Stewart who will be part of their plans. Unless he is badly quoted of course. The takeover will be sorted shortly and all will be clear I'm sure. Well as sure as can be.
 
darius said:
He has two separate conversations, one with the ownership group, then with Stewart who will be part of their plans. Unless he is badly quoted of course. The takeover will be sorted shortly and all will be clear I'm sure. Well as sure as can be.
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Regardless of takeover Donald remains part of the ownership group so I think you’re looking for something that isn’t there
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
everything about the appointment of Johnson looks like an existing SAFC board appointment. It’s even similar to our player recruitment.

Available, relatively cheap, previous championship experience without pulling up any trees, willing to work with a limited budget.

I may be categorically wrong, but I find the idea that the appointment of Speakman and Johnson have been solely down to the intervention of Dreyfuss and Sartori quite fanciful.
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exactly how i feel, it's SD clouding everything as usual
 
KJNMackem said:
As things stand, Stewart Donald is the owner of Sunderland AFC.

Wouldn't be weird, if our new head coach hadn't talk to him.
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As someone said on the other thread when short was trying to sell he didn’t speak to Coleman and left everything down to Bain. Why should Donald be involved if he’s not going to be involved?
 
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