• The forums will be unavailable for a few hours on Saturday 6th June, when they do return they will initially be in a degraded state with some features missing, but normal posting/reading will be possible. The main website will not be affected by these updates.
    New user registrations are currently disabled.

Sunderland will face Saudi Arabian opposition Al Shabab in Friendly (poll in Parsnip)


Provides them with exposure and validation that they have an acceptable sports system. They don’t. And they shouldn’t receive any validation from western teams until they put a government in place that stops killing and raping children. Simple as that really.

This game aside I think it’s a joke that they are going to Dubai. Holiday destination for the most tedious dull wankers on earth. Is this the kind of direction and culture we want to be setting at the club?

I see your point. I don't think it's a Black and white thing though (pardon the pun). We are having a low key one-off friendly with a club which may just be loosely linked to the royal family. It's not a great look- probably on par with England playing in the World Cup. Could have easily been avoided.
 
Is this not a massive exaggeration, even by our standards? It's just a friendly for goodness sake.

By making a meal out of it, it makes it into something it's not surely. I feel people are just seeing everything linked to Saudi Arabia as bad and jumping on this to try and take a moral high ground. We're playing a team in a neutral country. Can we not play a game against a Russian team going forward? Dear me.
 
Is this not a massive exaggeration, even by our standards? It's just a friendly for goodness sake.

By making a meal out of it, it makes it into something it's not surely. I feel people are just seeing everything linked to Saudi Arabia as bad and jumping on this to try and take a moral high ground. We're playing a team in a neutral country. Can we not play a game against a Russian team going forward? Dear me.
It's as simple as that. If the mags weren't owned by them it would barely be an issue
 
Yep, still don't get it. He's also referred to a load of bad PR at the beginning which has nothing to do with the current ownership. It's a friendly in a neutral territory, what has their club and players done wrong?

That article makes things worse imo. Would have been better if it was ignored and mentioned at the next RAWA meeting.
 
Last edited:
It is only a friendly so nothing really to see. And if the Saudis ever bought us and were in the top 3 at Christmas the SoL would packed
 
Yep, still don't get it. He's also referred to a load of bad PR at the beginning which has nothing to do with the current ownership. It's a friendly in a neutral territory, what has their club and players done wrong?

That article makes things worse imo. Would have been better if it was ignored and mentioned at the next RAWA meeting.
It also depends what it means when he says things that I would like my club to stand for, I doubt it’s dawned on him, football is a business now and it’s about profit, pure and simple. For example if a rich person from the UAE or Saudi offered to buy out, Donald or all 3 of them, they would take it, bank the money and not care.
 
Is this not a massive exaggeration, even by our standards? It's just a friendly for goodness sake.

By making a meal out of it, it makes it into something it's not surely. I feel people are just seeing everything linked to Saudi Arabia as bad and jumping on this to try and take a moral high ground. We're playing a team in a neutral country. Can we not play a game against a Russian team going forward? Dear me.

Spot on. Thats what this is- don't want anything to do with anything which is even slightly linked to Saudi. Even the Dubai trip didn't get as much of a reaction
 
In June, Watford fans got a friendly against the Qatar national team cancelled after two supporters’ groups, including Women of Watford (WOW), voiced concerns about the country’s human rights record.
This is Watford, a club not recently known as being stable or listening to their supporters (sounds familiar doesn't it)
A Watford spokesperson said "It became abundantly clear this was a game not to play; as such, the schedule was revised”

Mind you Watford supporters have a successful history of club involvement and protests going back decades.
 
Any mag reaction of this just shows how thick they are man so stop shitting it that we’ll look daft. It’s a friendly against a Saudi Arabian team in a different country, not much else to it imo
 
Amazing that as soon as Newcastle get taken over by the Saudis suddenly every wants to take the moral high ground on all things Saudi-related. It's a football match, that's it
Sorry but this might have been what made it obvious and brought it to your attention but awareness of the human rights issues from Saudi Arabia has been a thing for as a long as I can remember. The fact its crossed your plate now just because of football is entirely by design and why they wanted NUFC and why they want other western sports teams to play matches with them - they get to have the soft introduction of Saudi Arabia as a sport competitor rather than that place that tortures confessions out of folk and kills them, traffic slave labour, imprisons women who campaign for any sort of equal rights, imprisons tortures and kills journalists and of course continues to back and directly commit a load of war crimes that would get Putin hard in the peninsula.

I cannot just pretend its all okay its a just a football match and I dont know what to do about it. This is meant to be my club, I don't want to be in a position where I either accept it is doing something directly opposed to every possible moral stance or stop going and supporting them but its where the club have put me, and it seems it should have been so very very easy to just not.
 
In June, Watford fans got a friendly against the Qatar national team cancelled after two supporters’ groups, including Women of Watford (WOW), voiced concerns about the country’s human rights record.
This is Watford, a club not recently known as being stable or listening to their supporters (sounds familiar doesn't it)
A Watford spokesperson said "It became abundantly clear this was a game not to play; as such, the schedule was revised”

Mind you Watford supporters have a successful history of club involvement and protests going back decades.
That’s different though as they were playing the national team
 
Back
Top