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*~*~* Sunderland v Hull match thread *~*~*

Absolutely f***ing shite , piss poor cheap appointment, be signing no proven championship players again added to the the derby debacle and off the field issues it’s a pretty bleak time to be a Sunderland fan
I never heard that on the tv, was it vocal in the ground?
Very when they scored
 

At least you can admit it was shite. I’m reading excuses on twitter how we should of won

We might have won. They were indeed lucky.

But if we play with such a lack of intensity and a lack of desire. a tactic to play slowly and (haha) patiently - then we will struggle to score and are open to a deflected goal or a ref error.

It's down to us and our newfound walking football not down to bad luck
 
Mcgeady was the best player in the division by some distance. Grigg was in and out let's remember he'd regularly scored 25+ at that level. We also had Wyke who shared game time with him and scored 30+ a couple of years later.

We had several players who left and are playing Championship afterwards or still now.
It was a massive choke by Ross, who was absolutely hopeless and his career shows it.
Yeah, fair enough points
 
I don’t know how he’s managed it , but he appears to have got the whole team shitting themselves from the 1st minute.

We went head to head with Leicester ( ok we got beat ) but they played with a belief and a courage. These now look like they are terrified
Scared to make a run , a forward pass , to overlap , to have a crack at goal.

He has managed to eradicate all the joy , bravery , risk and confidence out of them in the space of about 3 weeks.
 
Absolutely f***ing shite , piss poor cheap appointment, be signing no proven championship players again added to the the derby debacle and off the field issues it’s a pretty bleak time to be a Sunderland fan

Very when they scored
I heard sacked in the morning when they scored, not “we want Beale out”
 
Because that’s the start of the problems. He boots that in the stands and none of the preceding events occur
Errors were made in the game before oniens header. Do they not count?

Patterson had the ball in two hands after the header. But he isn’t to blame.

The referee missed a goal kick. But he isn’t to blame.

We fail to clear the first ball. Not to blame

Prichard gets a foot on the ball. No blame.

Nobody marking carvalho. No blame.

It’s mad. You’re completely making the scenario fit to blame O’Nien.

I don’t think he’s a brilliant defender at all but you’re forcing the story here to fit blame to him. It’s completely forced
 
This. I have no words to describe how bad he is. Mowbray was an awful manager, but this guys making him look like Pep and Klopps love child. Think back to the crap we’ve had recently - Parkinson, Johnson, and you’d have any of those over this clown
Mowbray was not awful. He gave us good football and hope.

With Beale we have a shit sarnie.
 
My take on that.
Pritch has to be in the middle. Jobe isn’t terrible but we simply have to play Pritch in his best position. That said his dead balls were shite. If I’m honest I think we need a 10 with a bigger goal threat.

Jobe should have been pulled to get Ba on sooner and move Pritch BUT I can see why they kept him on instead of Ekwah who was slow and shite

One dimensional - everything goes left and that is why they can load up- they know where it’s going every time and pile up the numbers - and that’s because have no depth on the wings

Pace - the speed we distribute the ball has no pace and urgency - at times all we did was run with the ball. It’s ponderous.
Defensively I thought we were better than last week until the at dire goal

Our goal threat. Despite everybody bleating on about it - I’ll say it again. Rusyn at this point is NOT the answer at 9. If our leadership don’t sort this problem they deserve all they get. Hemir’s physicality maybe brought something better but the options are shocking for an aspiring premier league side.

Did we play well? No. Did Hull deserve to win? Did they fuck. They won with two huge slices of luck when we were on top.
Beale? I think we’re getting worse. Yes he needs players - left back , winger, striker all highlighted tonight - we had three central midfielders and all 3 were shite tonight. So change it. We had nothing threatening the right, so f***ing change it. At this point he looks uninspiring. I’d ditch him for Rosenior in a nano second who’s sharpness highlights the opposite.
No arguments with that.

I really thought Rusyn could work something up top, but we created nothing for him. I still think he's currently our best option.

A few times tonight he got free and the ball into him was wank, a couple from Clarke went behind him and a couple more he never got the pass at all

Hemir looked better as he allowed the midfield to limp aimless passes at him, but I don't remember him threatening the goal in his 20 mins either.
 
listening to him on sky now, dear me just sack this moron
He smiled at the interviewer and shook his hand,like saying thanks for not asking those awkward questions,like why did you have your hands in your pockets for 70 mins.
Instead you could have rolled up your sleeves made early changes,when they were on 5 yellows,and screamed your lungs out with passion,so the poor people who have wasted their wages,could see you give a shlt.
Speak man calls all the shots at this club make no bones about it
Anyway update on my homeless cat,I had a change of heart,and decided the get a goldfish.
Rest well young men we will be the backbone of this club,when people like Ian fails,we shall march forward,and never give in.
I know it's heartbreaking at the moment for us all,but rest assured if any of you are struggling mentally,my aunt Polly makes peanut and black pudding muffins,they are literally to die for.
You are all welcome to her house next sunday.peace and love to you all.
 
Mowbray wasn't a bad coach, just probably not able to take us to the next level.

This new lad, however looks perfectly capable of taking us BACK several levels. Sort it out, KLD.
I believe he was capable of taking us to the next level, but doubt he was capable of keeping us at that level
 
This. I have no words to describe how bad he is. Mowbray was an awful manager, but this guys making him look like Pep and Klopps love child. Think back to the crap we’ve had recently - Parkinson, Johnson, and you’d have any of those over this clown
TM was not a shit manager. He was struggling and lacked a plan B but he never let a team put that level of performance in despite his failings
 
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