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Sunderland railway station.


Sgt Pepper said:
Saw a photo on Sunderland History’s Facebook yesterday of the station from 1953. Comes to something when it was better then than in 2025. :lol:
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There’s been a deliberate ploy to channel the economic development opportunities brought by direct national rail connections to Newcastle at the expense of Sunderland which the people of Sunderland have meekly accepted since at least the 1970’s.

It needs to be reversed.
 
PhilY said:
There’s been a deliberate ploy to channel the economic development opportunities brought by direct national rail connections to Newcastle at the expense of Sunderland which the people of Sunderland have meekly accepted since at least the 1970’s.

It needs to be reversed.
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That’s still no excuse imo for a town and now city the size and history of Sunderland to have had successive shite railway stations. I posted earlier in the thread about how there are several examples off the top of my head of ‘lesser’ towns than Sunderland that have much better stations than we do. Middlesbrough just down the road being one.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
That’s still no excuse imo for a town and now city the size and history of Sunderland to have had successive shite railway stations. I posted earlier in the thread about how there are several examples off the top of my head of ‘lesser’ towns than Sunderland that have much better stations than we do. Middlesbrough just down the road being one.
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Station investment is linked to passenger traffic.

More connections = more passengers = more station investment.
 
Sgt Pepper said:
That’s still no excuse imo for a town and now city the size and history of Sunderland to have had successive shite railway stations. I posted earlier in the thread about how there are several examples off the top of my head of ‘lesser’ towns than Sunderland that have much better stations than we do. Middlesbrough just down the road being one.
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Middlesbrough station is shite mind.
 
dancingradio said:
Oh dear where to start. Dumped on us? Hes a local bloke whose worked his way into politics and clearly wants to make a difference to his local area. Vicious attack? Welfare system does need reforming PIP system is a joke! Know loads of people rinsing it. Dont even get me started on the mobility car system. If you blindly support pouring billions into welfare then you are on cloud cuckoo land and to blame for this country being such a soft touch
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Oh dear! If Labour MPs had a free vote on this I'd wager your 'local bloke' would have voted against the cuts.

I am to blame? :cool:

I've got nothing against him but against the process where we've got perfectly good selection procedures to select MPs etc and Labour North/HQ use the tactic of delaying a selection contest until it is too late to hold a members ballot and then parachute someone of their ilk in. Sunderland also has perfectly good candidates who live within the city boundaries.

Labour North machinations (allegedly) also resulted in:

Jamie Driscoll being excluded from the North East mayoral contest for interviewing on stage Ken Loach (Loach had refused to condemn members targeted by the witch-hunt) at a Tyneside film festival) while he was North of the Tyne mayor;

The coup against Councillor Miller the leader of SCC (he had endorsed Driscoll at a public meeting in the Hope Street Exchange, Sunderland);

The election of the Kim McGuinness as Northumbria PCC in an expensive re-run of the election after Vera Baird resigned to become Victims' Commissioner for England and Wales
(just after she'd been re-elected as Northumbria PCC);

The election of Kim McGuinness as North East mayor (she had been ineffectual as PCC).

You obviously don't know the machinations of Labour North/Labour HQ in Sunderland.
 
PhilY said:
There’s been a deliberate ploy to channel the economic development opportunities brought by direct national rail connections to Newcastle at the expense of Sunderland which the people of Sunderland have meekly accepted since at least the 1970’s.

It needs to be reversed.
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What is your plan to reverse it ?
 
PinzaC55 said:
What is your plan to reverse it ?
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New enhanced national direct rail connections to major cities in the UK.

To start with, re-extending TPE services (eg from Manchester to Sunderland), ensuring that the future works to the north end of the station include re-opening the currently mothballed platforms under Market Square, then lobbying for upgrades on the Durham Coast Line to allow higher speed travel on that and, ultimately creating a new direct connection to the ECML.

First and foremost, however, we need to convince NECA of the merits of releasing the brakes on Sunderland - the Mayor is attending a meeting of the Sunderland Public Transport Users’ group at the end of this month and we’re already in correspondence with her office.
 
Weremuthe said:
Oh dear! If Labour MPs had a free vote on this I'd wager your 'local bloke' would have voted against the cuts.

I am to blame? :cool:

I've got nothing against him but against the process where we've got perfectly good selection procedures to select MPs etc and Labour North/HQ use the tactic of delaying a selection contest until it is too late to hold a members ballot and then parachute someone of their ilk in. Sunderland also has perfectly good candidates who live within the city boundaries.

Labour North machinations (allegedly) also resulted in:

Jamie Driscoll being excluded from the North East mayoral contest for interviewing on stage Ken Loach (Loach had refused to condemn members targeted by the witch-hunt) at a Tyneside film festival) while he was North of the Tyne mayor;

The coup against Councillor Miller the leader of SCC (he had endorsed Driscoll at a public meeting in the Hope Street Exchange, Sunderland);

The election of the Kim McGuinness as Northumbria PCC in an expensive re-run of the election after Vera Baird resigned to become Victims' Commissioner for England and Wales
(just after she'd been re-elected as Northumbria PCC);

The election of Kim McGuinness as North East mayor (she had been ineffectual as PCC).

You obviously don't know the machinations of Labour North/Labour HQ in Sunderland.
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Parachute him in? Hes from the area man. And driscoll calls himself a socialist on twitter so i can imagine what hes like
 
PhilY said:
New enhanced national direct rail connections to major cities in the UK.

To start with, re-extending TPE services (eg from Manchester to Sunderland), ensuring that the future works to the north end of the station include re-opening the currently mothballed platforms under Market Square, then lobbying for upgrades on the Durham Coast Line to allow higher speed travel on that and, ultimately creating a new direct connection to the ECML.

First and foremost, however, we need to convince NECA of the merits of releasing the brakes on Sunderland - the Mayor is attending a meeting of the Sunderland Public Transport Users’ group at the end of this month and we’re already in correspondence with her office.
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I’ve wondered if a TPE service starting at Newcastle and heading down the DCL, stopping at Sunderland & Hartlepool before joining onto the ECML and then onto Leeds & Manchester would work.
 
Struts said:
I’ve wondered if a TPE service starting at Newcastle and heading down the DCL, stopping at Sunderland & Hartlepool before joining onto the ECML and then onto Leeds & Manchester would work.
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In theory, yes, but not on their current timetabling.

The Durham coast line is limited to 50mph south of Sunderland. It needs and deserves investment to raise that and properly link up the coast.
 
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