Sunderland railway station.

[dancingradio]

As someone said search BMW mobility and tells you everything that is wrong with the scheme.

Aye but the do gooders wont hear a bad word said about these poor under privileged people who cant work cos they are too triggered

 

[gazc24]

Went past it last week, about 4pm, on a Thursday tramps drinking cider outside of it, 6 seats inside, terrible

 

[Wearside Wanderer II]

Went past it last week, about 4pm, on a Thursday tramps drinking cider outside of it, 6 seats inside, terrible

Any trains?

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Saw a photo on Sunderland History’s Facebook yesterday of the station from 1953. Comes to something when it was better then than in 2025.

 

[PhilY]

Saw a photo on Sunderland History’s Facebook yesterday of the station from 1953. Comes to something when it was better then than in 2025.

There’s been a deliberate ploy to channel the economic development opportunities brought by direct national rail connections to Newcastle at the expense of Sunderland which the people of Sunderland have meekly accepted since at least the 1970’s.

It needs to be reversed.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

There’s been a deliberate ploy to channel the economic development opportunities brought by direct national rail connections to Newcastle at the expense of Sunderland which the people of Sunderland have meekly accepted since at least the 1970’s.

It needs to be reversed.

That’s still no excuse imo for a town and now city the size and history of Sunderland to have had successive shite railway stations. I posted earlier in the thread about how there are several examples off the top of my head of ‘lesser’ towns than Sunderland that have much better stations than we do. Middlesbrough just down the road being one.

 

[PhilY]

That’s still no excuse imo for a town and now city the size and history of Sunderland to have had successive shite railway stations. I posted earlier in the thread about how there are several examples off the top of my head of ‘lesser’ towns than Sunderland that have much better stations than we do. Middlesbrough just down the road being one.

Station investment is linked to passenger traffic.

More connections = more passengers = more station investment.

 

[Wilfy]

That’s still no excuse imo for a town and now city the size and history of Sunderland to have had successive shite railway stations. I posted earlier in the thread about how there are several examples off the top of my head of ‘lesser’ towns than Sunderland that have much better stations than we do. Middlesbrough just down the road being one.

Middlesbrough station is shite mind.

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Middlesbrough station is shite mind.

Precisely the point, and yet it still looks a million miles better than the current and most recent versions of Sunderland station.

 

[Wilfy]

Precisely the point, and yet it still looks a million miles better than the current and most recent versions of Sunderland station.

Been a while since I was using it daily but was no better or worse than Sunderland.

 

[Weremuthe]

Oh dear where to start. Dumped on us? Hes a local bloke whose worked his way into politics and clearly wants to make a difference to his local area. Vicious attack? Welfare system does need reforming PIP system is a joke! Know loads of people rinsing it. Dont even get me started on the mobility car system. If you blindly support pouring billions into welfare then you are on cloud cuckoo land and to blame for this country being such a soft touch

Oh dear! If Labour MPs had a free vote on this I'd wager your 'local bloke' would have voted against the cuts.

I am to blame?

I've got nothing against him but against the process where we've got perfectly good selection procedures to select MPs etc and Labour North/HQ use the tactic of delaying a selection contest until it is too late to hold a members ballot and then parachute someone of their ilk in. Sunderland also has perfectly good candidates who live within the city boundaries.

Labour North machinations (allegedly) also resulted in:

Jamie Driscoll being excluded from the North East mayoral contest for interviewing on stage Ken Loach (Loach had refused to condemn members targeted by the witch-hunt) at a Tyneside film festival) while he was North of the Tyne mayor;

The coup against Councillor Miller the leader of SCC (he had endorsed Driscoll at a public meeting in the Hope Street Exchange, Sunderland);

The election of the Kim McGuinness as Northumbria PCC in an expensive re-run of the election after Vera Baird resigned to become Victims' Commissioner for England and Wales
(just after she'd been re-elected as Northumbria PCC);

The election of Kim McGuinness as North East mayor (she had been ineffectual as PCC).

You obviously don't know the machinations of Labour North/Labour HQ in Sunderland.

 

[PinzaC55]

There’s been a deliberate ploy to channel the economic development opportunities brought by direct national rail connections to Newcastle at the expense of Sunderland which the people of Sunderland have meekly accepted since at least the 1970’s.

It needs to be reversed.

What is your plan to reverse it ?

 

[PhilY]

What is your plan to reverse it ?

New enhanced national direct rail connections to major cities in the UK.

To start with, re-extending TPE services (eg from Manchester to Sunderland), ensuring that the future works to the north end of the station include re-opening the currently mothballed platforms under Market Square, then lobbying for upgrades on the Durham Coast Line to allow higher speed travel on that and, ultimately creating a new direct connection to the ECML.

First and foremost, however, we need to convince NECA of the merits of releasing the brakes on Sunderland - the Mayor is attending a meeting of the Sunderland Public Transport Users’ group at the end of this month and we’re already in correspondence with her office.

 

[Dan..Dan..Dan..Dan]

120 years ago.

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[dancingradio]

Oh dear! If Labour MPs had a free vote on this I'd wager your 'local bloke' would have voted against the cuts.

I am to blame?

I've got nothing against him but against the process where we've got perfectly good selection procedures to select MPs etc and Labour North/HQ use the tactic of delaying a selection contest until it is too late to hold a members ballot and then parachute someone of their ilk in. Sunderland also has perfectly good candidates who live within the city boundaries.

Labour North machinations (allegedly) also resulted in:

Jamie Driscoll being excluded from the North East mayoral contest for interviewing on stage Ken Loach (Loach had refused to condemn members targeted by the witch-hunt) at a Tyneside film festival) while he was North of the Tyne mayor;

The coup against Councillor Miller the leader of SCC (he had endorsed Driscoll at a public meeting in the Hope Street Exchange, Sunderland);

The election of the Kim McGuinness as Northumbria PCC in an expensive re-run of the election after Vera Baird resigned to become Victims' Commissioner for England and Wales
(just after she'd been re-elected as Northumbria PCC);

The election of Kim McGuinness as North East mayor (she had been ineffectual as PCC).

You obviously don't know the machinations of Labour North/Labour HQ in Sunderland.

Parachute him in? Hes from the area man. And driscoll calls himself a socialist on twitter so i can imagine what hes like

 

[Sgt Pepper]

120 years ago.

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Great that. Looks like an actual proper station rather than an empty greenhouse and basement that happens to have a railway line going through it.

 

[mackem35]

Great that. Looks like an actual proper station rather than an empty greenhouse and basement that happens to have a railway line going through it.

At least its not Burger King's basement any more. The smell of used cooking oil on arrival at Sunderland said it all.

 

[Lord Nigle]

Middlesbrough station is shite mind.

It’s a lovely old station compared to the miserable dark hole we have at Sunderland.

 

[Struts]

New enhanced national direct rail connections to major cities in the UK.

To start with, re-extending TPE services (eg from Manchester to Sunderland), ensuring that the future works to the north end of the station include re-opening the currently mothballed platforms under Market Square, then lobbying for upgrades on the Durham Coast Line to allow higher speed travel on that and, ultimately creating a new direct connection to the ECML.

First and foremost, however, we need to convince NECA of the merits of releasing the brakes on Sunderland - the Mayor is attending a meeting of the Sunderland Public Transport Users’ group at the end of this month and we’re already in correspondence with her office.

I’ve wondered if a TPE service starting at Newcastle and heading down the DCL, stopping at Sunderland & Hartlepool before joining onto the ECML and then onto Leeds & Manchester would work.

 

[PhilY]

I’ve wondered if a TPE service starting at Newcastle and heading down the DCL, stopping at Sunderland & Hartlepool before joining onto the ECML and then onto Leeds & Manchester would work.

In theory, yes, but not on their current timetabling.

The Durham coast line is limited to 50mph south of Sunderland. It needs and deserves investment to raise that and properly link up the coast.