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Sunderland railway station.
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Hank Scorpio
Striker
TP returning would be brilliant
Osklen
Winger
Well bugger it then , we'll keep what we've got.
Which given the funds (apart from a bit of a tart up) will be precisely what happens.
As some have said there are other options such as wearmouth station / sheepfolds being redeveloped which I think is a legitimate solution. The central station then need only be a metro stop so a glass box or redevelopment of Poundland would be more than enough. It will however require a rethink of the riverside Sunderland masterplan as that area is identified for housing.
Liverpool Central reminds me of our station. Except the above ground bit is better. 16 million won't do much,, it seems every 10 year there's a few million spent on it giving it a face-lift. Be better converting littlewoods into the main entrance and concourse area, and reopen the other platform down there
AB22 Easy Tiger
Heaven Branch
That’s the point, it always goes via Newcastle. It should go south vis the coast.
Osklen
Winger
Agreed that would be ideal but I do wonder how much can be accommodated at platform level in that arrangement. When you look at the old images when it was in that arrangement it doesn’t look like there’s much accommodation for toilets, cafe, staff? Also they’d need to factor in lifts, escalators etc. The current station arrangement doesn’t provide much space either. Might be quite tight then for passengers to fit on.
Could be done if they kept the existing entrance too?
Have cafe, shop, toilets, waiting room in littlewoods, there's stairs and lifts just behind littlewoods opposite greggs
Indeed but we don't even have the direct service now. Previously it was.
Will it actually save time rattling down the coast to Boro before heading west?
Osklen
Winger
You mean the northern entrance or keep the southern one as well? I agree it could be done you’d probably want to include Bon marche etc into any scheme and just forget about the southern (current) entrance. I do wonder however if they’ve got time to switch funding to the north entrance? Usually have timescales attached to it and presumably some work done on the current (southern) building.
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AB22 Easy Tiger
Heaven Branch
I’m not sure of the speed limits on the coast line, or the logistics of adding high speed services (What are the limits on Grand Central HSTs of their replacements on the line?)
When we came back from Wembley last year reached York in 90 mins, took another 90 to reach Sunderland, frustratingly.
Think the coast line is not up to taking full speed Inter City.
zinedine
Striker
I was going to mention Monkwearmouth station becoming the main station. However I think a city's main train station should be in the centre, in the shopping area. The Monkwearmouth station is a bit far out, just and on and the wrong side of the river. Parking would be easier though.
Osklen
Winger
You could argue that durhams station is in a similar place to monkwearmouth from its city centre likewise Newcastle’s is on the periphery of the city centre. Monkwearmouth is probably a better arrival point to the city than central station. At least you may get a view of the bridge and the river and also SoL.
zinedine
Striker
Its a canny hike to our main shopping area the bridges and there are some shitty roads to cross. Shoppers won't want to lug their bags down to Monkwearmouth especially in bad weather. Same for commuters getting off buses from park lane. Sunderland's main train station should be on the same side of the river as the city centre. In my opinion anyway.
AB22 Easy Tiger
Heaven Branch
We could knock down part of Fawcett st and build an entrance there. Fawcett St station has a definite ring to it
Would be ideal but Sheffield's and Derby's are not. It could be argued that London's aren't either as they are located on a circle around the West End and City. A lot of city centres have changed focus since the stations were built.
The metro journey would only be a couple of minutes. I think the aesthetics of that station would outweigh the slight inconvenience.
mackem35
Winger
Durham is a canny walk down the bank and Coventry's railway station is a long way out, same for loads of places. With a new footbridge and Riverside development Monkwearmouth is close enough to the city centre and it could have a proper taxi rank, bus stops and long/short stay parking, I remember having an argument with my mother re Crowtree bus station closing and having to trek from Park Lane as if that was like miles and miles. The current station could still remain as a metro station but as a central station its a hole and we sem to constantly throw good money after bad at it,
Bang on.
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Darlo1973
Striker
There are plenty of towns and cities in the country where the main station is a fair hike from the main shopping/business area. Cambridge, Bristol, Nottingham, Norwich, Colchester to name a few.
Maybe building a big shiny station at Monkwearmouth would help the redevelopment of the area with the current central station only being a metro stop.
1more
Striker
I still think moving the station south where the civic is would be the best place for it
deep south
Full Back
Split the station, have the current one just as metro and build a new network rail station for GC and Northern towards the civic centre, this would stop the stupid rush to fit in the platform work where the metro limits the mainline trains.
By the way, I've always found the ticket office staff very helpful!
By the way, I've always found the ticket office staff very helpful!
