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Staff Redundancies at SAFC

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Misery loves company and its waiting list is well over subscribed (surprisingly no one on here is losing their job I assume so can afford to be flippant and on occasion nasty)
I've seen more than one Sunderland 'fan' state on social media that they 'support the redundancies'.

Aside from the fact 'supporting' redundancies is incredibly disrespectful to those affected, how can anyone claim to support job losses at the local football club?
 

I've seen more than one Sunderland 'fan' state on social media that they 'support the redundancies'.

Aside from the fact 'supporting' redundancies is incredibly disrespectful to those affected, how can anyone claim to support job losses at the local football club?
People just want to seem 'tough' and 'worldly' when it doesn't affect them. It doesn't affect me but I know people who work at the club.
The club is a shambles and the innocent will suffer as usual.
 
Sack Rodwell and use the money saved to keep these people in work.

Disgusting seeing the lack of effort from the likes of Borini and we are making people redundant. :evil:

Unfortunately this won't work. Football seems to be the only profession where people are rewarded for failure and being absolutely shite at your job.
 
Do we though? There was significant fanfare on here when we began announcing concerts. I'd imagine it was always designed to benefit the club.

The expansion in to other areas was designed to spread the name of Sunderland. All of the Invest in Africa initiative was designed to spread the brand of Sunderland across the world. Look at other clubs. Teams like Man U and Liverpool have things like their own watch and vehicle partners.

The money involved in paying these peoples wages is a fraction of the overall playing staff wage bill.

Given our performance this season and over recent years, who would want to pay to be our watch, vehicle or airline partner? Teams like Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool etc get these deals because of their profile as world leading clubs based on their performances on the pitch. If you concentrate on being successful on the grass, all of these things should follow and then you can worry about having people in place to manage them.
 
The club is run by utter morons and the fans have no backbone. People talk about stabilising and competing with the likes of Stoke, Southampton and West Ham. Let me tell you we are LIGHT YEARS AWAY from competing with these clubs, on and off the pitch.

We are closer to Villa, Cardiff and QPR than the aforementioned clubs. It's been a shitshow for years, one embarrassment to the next. 3 more long, hard months then finally it's all over. We can begin to compete with clubs our level.
 
The club is run by utter morons and the fans have no backbone. People talk about stabilising and competing with the likes of Stoke, Southampton and West Ham. Let me tell you we are LIGHT YEARS AWAY from competing with these clubs, on and off the pitch.

We are closer to Villa, Cardiff and QPR than the aforementioned clubs. It's been a shitshow for years, one embarrassment to the next. 3 more long, hard months then finally it's all over. We can begin to compete with clubs our level.
I don't think there is a single act left of failure or embarassment that could raise the Sunderland fanbase to object to the activities of the club.

I really don't know what happened and when but we're the most docile set of fans in the upper echelons of English football.
 
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i have zero problem with the players going to NY. It was a team building exercise. I don't care if they all went out and got hammered and had a lads night. If it improves team spirit and that reflects positively on the pitch then the job is done. It isnt the clubs responsibility to make sure that people have jobs, nor would i expect them to keep people in jobs for the sake of it.
 
I don't think there is a single act left of failure or embarassment that could raise the Sunderland fanbase to object to the activities of the club.

I really don't know what happened and when but we're the most docile set of fans in the upper echelons of English football.

We collectively believe we are where we should be, fighting relegation.
Sadly some of the loudest on here like to confirm that for us all too. We are broken as fans, we accept anything. We are pathetically grateful to be fans.
 
OK might not be the correct term, but understandable may.

The timings unfortunate but I don't really think they could help it. If they think a bonding trip might work then they need to try it and this was one of the few times they could go due to the free weekend. If there is a 90 day consultation period regarding redundancies then, if any are dependent on whether we stay up, the process needed to be started now so that action can be taken should we go down. If they didn't announce it then news would have got out anyway and they'd have looked like they were trying to do it on the sly. It's shit timing, and people being at risk of losing their jobs is shit too but I don't think the club could really have handled it much differently tbh
 
Redundancies are a fact of life.

They also ruin lives.

Joleon Lescott will likely earn in his stint here what most of these 40 people earn in a year.

Moyes and Bain are completely teflon coated.

No other fan base in the country would applaud their club sat at the bottom of the league watching their team preparing for relegation and ripping the piss with twee marketing campaigns claiming we're all in this together whilst making 40 people unemployed in one of the poorest cities in the country and having a knees up in New York.

It beggars belief what our fans will tolerate.

By this same stage last season Villa fans had literally taken to the streets and forced most of the club hierarchy into hiding.

Our lot are applauding the grim reaper who even when he tells us everything is fucked still has everyone lapping it up.

Nailed Firmly On !
 
We collectively believe we are where we should be, fighting relegation.
Sadly some of the loudest on here like to confirm that for us all too. We are broken as fans, we accept anything. We are pathetically grateful to be fans.
Correct. But we are also told we deserve little better - by the manager and the chief executive.

As for the owner he's just sailed off into the sunset.

When the CEO sat in a darkened room before Christmas and told us it was all over and we should abandon all hope....supporters fell over themselves to applaud him.

It's laughable.
 
Correct. But we are also told we deserve little better - by the manager and the chief executive.

As for the owner he's just sailed off into the sunset.

When the CEO sat in a darkened room before Christmas and told us it was all over and we should abandon all hope....supporters fell over themselves to applaud him.

It's laughable.

well some of us did warn people, just wait till the accounts come out, then you will see... its a nightmare but most of your posts have been spot on. as for me i have been holding a personal protest against the owner for sometime now, i made a decision part way threw last year that i wouldn't step foot inside the Stadium Of Light until he was gone, and i have stuck to that. but fact is i will not fund this man good money to make a joke out of the club I have supported for 25 years, truth is looking at it now i think i will continue said protest, because i may only be just one of a few but after what happened with jolly boys outing to America in summer 2015, and the fact they came back not ready for the new season, and then all the mismanagement by the board, and then to top it off, the Johnson scandal, that is where i drew the line, judge if you wish but, he's not getting another penny out of me.
 
Redundancies are a fact of life.

They also ruin lives.

Joleon Lescott will likely earn in his stint here what most of these 40 people earn in a year.

Moyes and Bain are completely teflon coated.

No other fan base in the country would applaud their club sat at the bottom of the league watching their team preparing for relegation and ripping the piss with twee marketing campaigns claiming we're all in this together whilst making 40 people unemployed in one of the poorest cities in the country and having a knees up in New York.

It beggars belief what our fans will tolerate.

By this same stage last season Villa fans had literally taken to the streets and forced most of the club hierarchy into hiding.

Our lot are applauding the grim reaper who even when he tells us everything is fucked still has everyone lapping it up.
Game, set and match.
 
£35k or £50k. Over £1.6m per year..... Wild guess if every I heard one. There won't be anyone on that other than players.
Yeah - my mistake meant £35k and £50k per annum:oops:

Per year mate. Normal people ! With reference to the team having slurps. Aye. It's never stopped really. Under any regime.



Per year! Was in response to @chriswallace85 who I assumed asked per year.

Yes was my mistake, meant to put p.a. not p.w.. Normal but above national average and still stands that it's not "barely scraping by"
 
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The worst one has already gone man.

No outcry on here when he " left " his job.


I was referring more to the players, but I get the point

There will be cut backs whether we stay in the Premiership or not. Bains job is to restructure our finances / whole operation so we can become profitable. Staying in the premiership is a critical factor in stabilizing those finaces so anything that can be done to help this ( eg bonding trips to NYC ) has to be considered.


If it works, lets see what this bonding trip does, the stupid twats may have considered bonding the fans, having the players training all week at Roker in front of open gates would have been good, it wouldnt have cost a fortune and wouldnt have damaged the soft bastard players too much
 
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Whilst its true cutting the wage bill is the easiest way to cut expenditure, if the club was run correctly jobs wouldn't need to go regardless of which Division the club plays in.
I work for a company that never has compulsory redundancies -we offer voluntary redundancies, but then look at unnecessary expenditure every year to make sure costs are kept within budgets year on year - like travel, have a phone call instead of a face to face meeting, spend a few days in Seaham Hall rather than New York.

I would hope that the staffing levels are already set efficiently, but I expect there are a few 'jobs for the boys' and some people sitting around doing nothing. That's not their fault, that’s the fault of the executives and senior management.

Sad all the same losing your job.


Yeah I agree but when you look at our total outgoings - a large amount of it is wages. I'm not sure about the total percentage but I think it's 70% which is too high.

It's the players that need to go. The likes of wages that we spend on shite that we don't need Jack Rodwell, Manquillo, Larsson and a few others.
 
Yeah I agree but when you look at our total outgoings - a large amount of it is wages. I'm not sure about the total percentage but I think it's 70% which is too high.

It's the players that need to go. The likes of wages that we spend on shite that we don't need Jack Rodwell, Manquillo, Larsson and a few others.
A cull of 4 fringe players would save a loads of money. That's why I have been so critical of Moyes and Bain as why shifted about 20 players at the end of last season and added another 13 who are sub standard. basically we replaced deadwood with more deadwood.
 
A cull of 4 fringe players would save a loads of money. That's why I have been so critical of Moyes and Bain as why shifted about 20 players at the end of last season and added another 13 who are sub standard. basically we replaced deadwood with more deadwood.


The problem is we needed to fill the squad out. So we had to sign players that have little or no impact (some through injury, some through being garbage) Love Manquillo McNair Pienaar Lescott

Our transfer record has been nothing short of horrendous in the past few years.
 
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