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Southampton spying compendium thread

chriswallace85 said:
The really fuckin' stupid thing about all this, is what on earth did Southampton hope to gan by having some gonk film another team's training session on his phone?

With all the video analysis of actual games etc available nowadays, what good is some dodgy footage from behind a tree two fields away to any body?

Stupid stupid bastards.

They deserve everything they get just for being that fuckin' numb.
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Potential players being out injured that they would then not plan for, changes in formation if they decided to mix things up from previous games that season, penalty practice in case it went that far etc. There's a few things that could be a benefit, but not for what the potential issues it raised 🤣
 

chriswallace85 said:
The really fuckin' stupid thing about all this, is what on earth did Southampton hope to gan by having some gonk film another team's training session on his phone?

With all the video analysis of actual games etc available nowadays, what good is some dodgy footage from behind a tree two fields away to any body?

Stupid stupid bastards.

They deserve everything they get just for being that fuckin' numb.
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There is a big difference between watching previous games and getting the inside knowledge on how the opponent is going to set up against you, who’s going to play, what formation will they have on your next match. That sort of information is I expect priceless in your own team tactics.

I do however agree that I think they would have beat boro anyway so was it a risk worth taking.

The fact that they did take it points to the fact that they have been using it for some time over the season.
 
PitYacker said:
There is a big difference between watching previous games and getting the inside knowledge on how the opponent is going to set up against you, who’s going to play, what formation will they have on your next match. That sort of information is I expect priceless in your own team tactics.

I do however agree that I think they would have beat boro anyway so was it a risk worth taking.

The fact that they did take it points to the fact that they have been using it for some time over the season.
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The truth is out there. Just look at the first 15 minutes of their matches since the 2nd of November ...
 
andy78 said:
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Look at this statement.

"We're guilty but it's unfair that we were basically fined £250m".

Genuinely mental that their argument is that we should be allowed to go up and then only be rewarded £249,800,000.
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You can't take opportunity income/costs into account. Beating Hull could not be guaranteed. That's a level of arrogance akin to Sheffield Utd this time last year.
 
🤣🤣🤣idiot. If not for cheating they may have not even qualified for the playoffs. An incredible brass neck, they may have even lost the final. What Leeds got fined is immaterial, it wasnt a law then so couldn't punish it as severely. They lack of awareness and understanding is astonishing. EFL could easily argue that first game should be forfeit due to cheating and they would be out of the competition amyway
 
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ned_werby said:
More nonsense. Charge has been admitted, the EFL get to decide the sanction, fine, points deduction or expulsion. Oh, and there is no further appeal allowed after today. No CAS, no arbitration, nothing. And if SFC want to go the legal route they'll be even more fucked than they already are.
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Except none of that is true. The EFL arbitration process is covered by the 1996 Arbitration Act. Whilst the chances are slim it’s completely wrong to say that Southampton don’t have potential legal routes if they believe they have a case that the process followed wasn’t fair. As I’ve said particularly for the appeal they potentially have the timeline and lack of written summary (Being given the right to appeal after they have full reasoning for the original outcome) should they want to pursue it. None of us knows anything in the detail of if or not they would have a potential case for that except what is in the public domain.
 
PitYacker said:
There is a big difference between watching previous games and getting the inside knowledge on how the opponent is going to set up against you, who’s going to play, what formation will they have on your next match. That sort of information is I expect priceless in your own team tactics.

I do however agree that I think they would have beat boro anyway so was it a risk worth taking.

The fact that they did take it points to the fact that they have been using it for some time over the season.
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Aye but come on, are you really gonna get that info spying on a training session from behind a tree?
 
The reality is that the entire coaching staff and players have to be in on it for the cheating/spying programme to be effective.

Insights on the opposition's starting set up shared with the coaching staff, who then pass it on to the players. Player would have to be thick not to know where those instructions are coming from, especially if the change started in early November with the new gaffer.
 
SaintsWeb have some posters who are quick to say what they did was wrong...but this did make me laugh from another

"I think we all know exactly what has happened here, although it will never be proven.

We sacked this Taylor(?) chap that we hired from boro. When we got Boro in the playoffs, he ran straight to the club to do a deal with them knowing salt would likely turn up, they were then ready and waiting with a media team to snap him in "4k" or whatever it was (the irony that he had better equipment than our spying analyst...)... and then Gibbo's got the extra "whistle blower" details out of him, had it to hand, and essentially ambushed us with it via the EFL a couple of days before the formal hearing. Which has included Taylor being in possession of previous whatsapp calls and images from his employment at saints. Reckon we were going to get done for this from the minute we got boro in the playoffs. Fully stitched up, even if it is our own fault.

What they didn't count on, and what was an additional bonus, was Parsons being so incredibly stupid"
 
MonkeyLove said:
Except none of that is true. The EFL arbitration process is covered by the 1996 Arbitration Act. Whilst the chances are slim it’s completely wrong to say that Southampton don’t have potential legal routes if they believe they have a case that the process followed wasn’t fair. As I’ve said particularly for the appeal they potentially have the timeline and lack of written summary (Being given the right to appeal after they have full reasoning for the original outcome) should they want to pursue it. None of us knows anything in the detail of if or not they would have a potential case for that except what is in the public domain.
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AFAIK, SFC agreed the process, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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