AndrewP
Striker
They offered them cheaply, not free.
£20 for an adult and a child, that sort of thing.
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They offered them cheaply, not free.
£20 for an adult and a child, that sort of thing.
Wrenthorpe Mackem
Striker
Erm....its clear enough isn't it? I'm not claiming swathes were/ are locked out. We're getting bigger gates than Quinn's time despite being out of the top flight for 7 years.
As for the Mags 'taking all out support' argument...heard that all before in the early to mid 90s when we were ridiculed for building a 40K stadium.
Onlyfoolsrushin
Striker
During the two 7th place seasons, I had ST's and we travelled up the 320 miles every other week, it cost a small fortune but was worth it at the time. On the way there would be masses of SAFC fans travelling the length of the country. It was amazing to see how many wanted to travel to watch us. Bring good football and the the fans will travel. We're everywhere, not just the North-east. The game is even more popular now. Premier League football will fill the SoL and would need extending to satisfy the demand, IMO.
However, our problem might be staying there. Easier said than done.
However, our problem might be staying there. Easier said than done.
Local Lad
Winger
The way the ground is currently with the away fans and segregation we would never get anywhere near that until the ground is extended.
Obviously the mags was an extreme example but that was less than 45k sell out.
Off the top of my head I can't think of many games we sold out but Luton was 46k sell out.
If we can only have 45-46k people in the stadium then we aren't a million miles away from filling it.
In the last premier league stint we only had 1 season where we were below 40k average. We are already at that level now.
horselover
Striker
It's in Bob Murrays book that there is a plan to extend the South Stand. However I'm not sure how many extra seats that would mean, if any. It could just be extended for hospitality. But extending the east stand would make more sense for the concerts etc
brain_stew
Midfield
Any expansion would be focused on increasing our corporate facilities and overall matchday experience. Our capacity is fine but our corporate facilities and overall matchday experience for both games and gigs now lag quite far behind modern stadia.
With financial fairplay rules, increasing revenues is the only path to competing in the Premier League and increased corporate facilities are one way of doing that. Capital investments into stadium facilities are exempt from financial fairplay rules but increase the ongoing revenues long term allowing budgets to increase. Without investment we'll risk losing existing revenue streams as bands turn to stadiums with better corporate facilities and thus higher revenues for them and the club.
This sort of investment isn't as ridiculous as many seem to suggest it would be
With financial fairplay rules, increasing revenues is the only path to competing in the Premier League and increased corporate facilities are one way of doing that. Capital investments into stadium facilities are exempt from financial fairplay rules but increase the ongoing revenues long term allowing budgets to increase. Without investment we'll risk losing existing revenue streams as bands turn to stadiums with better corporate facilities and thus higher revenues for them and the club.
This sort of investment isn't as ridiculous as many seem to suggest it would be
brain_stew
Midfield
Our existing corporate facilities would be oversubscribed in the Prem and with our low average ticket price for regular tickets, even with a 45K+ average our matchday revenue would be amongst the lowest in the league. Without expanding our hospitality we'd be leaving revenue on the table and leaving the club at a competitive disadvantage.
We'll not be able to maintain Premier League status for 10 years if we don't have a credible plan to increase matchday revenues. Our playing budget is directly based on revenue in the Premier League now, so capital investments to increase matchday revenues and support larger player budgets is a crucial part to solidifying ourselves as an established Premier League club as effective player trading.
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I’d extend the south and SEC
Have the aways fans in the lower SEC & upper. It would bring on the Roker end having aways to bounce off
Fuck BCB off and have that open to regular fans with north stand rail standing.
We’d have two big home ends behind both goals
Obviously additional hospitality would bring extra cash in too
Have the aways fans in the lower SEC & upper. It would bring on the Roker end having aways to bounce off
Fuck BCB off and have that open to regular fans with north stand rail standing.
We’d have two big home ends behind both goals
Obviously additional hospitality would bring extra cash in too
People seem to be forgetting that the long-term aim for the SSoL is for it to be used more that 20odd times a year for footie. There's massive amounts of money to be made from concerts, if they get the offering right. Wouldn't be surprised to see the East Stand being redeveloped for corporates, at the loss of a few seats (pointless doing the South if it's behind the stage), and the South itself being extended a la North for an overall marginal increase in capacity.
MadMackem10
Winger
It makes sense to look to expand our current hospitality at the moment. And when you are doing that level of construction it would be far more cost effective doing any expansion at the same time
I don’t know what they’d need exactly but I’m sure they could get away with using the existing catering facilities, put some toilets in at either end of boxes and use the black cats bar entrance. I might be over simplifying it but that would pretty much do, only thing would be fire escapes but a few doors leading onto the stands should cover that.
Julio Mackemo
Winger
Think we got 46k in league one too. I really don't understand what they have done to knock 2.5k off the capacity, I thought we were just not using the front of the north stand upper.
That’s because you have to jump through hoops to actually buy a ticket.
The other reason is the waste of seats not used due to the shite segregation policy.
You don’t see huge gaps between rival fans at grounds like The Etihad or Spurs. Why the fuck do we do it?
JaFlan86
Midfield
Please man, let's not sounding like them lot up the road ffs
I have had kids at school continuously from 2002 until today and none of them have ever been offered or given free tickets. The most we were offered was 2 tickets for £15 (one adult ticket and one child ticket) & it's years ago since we were even offered those.
englishman abroad
Striker
I can only tell you what I read when the stadium was first built, there's an image of the upper bowl complete & the scoreboard reading Sunderland 3 AC Milan 0
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Wrenthorpe Mackem
Striker
Very good points made mate. When we think of 'extension' the first priority is corporate facilities I would agree. For the reasons you highlighted.
Randy Savage
Striker
Yep. My child is into his third year of high school in Seaham and in all the time he has been going to school (primary and high) we have been offered the school promo about once a season max. £20 as you say.
