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Social distancing

We will reach a point where the risk is reduced for everybody, not just the first couple of at risk groups.

Bryan's Dad has done nothing wrong - he's right to be fat is actually greater than Grandmas right to break the law.
Rules will be relaxed long before we get to that point. Hopefully she is still alive by then and Bryan's obese dad should sort his life out.
No, I'm saying grandma doesn't see anybody until we're told by the scientists it's safe to do so.
She needs care so unfortunately has no choice but to see her daughter.
 
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Grandma is vaccinated - but Grandmas can still spread.

Grandma decides to see family and passes virus on to little Johnny.

Little Johnny is asymptomatic.

Little Johnny passed virus to Little Bryan.

Little Bryan passses disease on to his obese, 45 year old Dad.

Little Bryan is an orphan because Grandma decided she was fine and didn't need the rules anymore.

Not difficult to explain or understand - in short, nobody is safe until everybody is.

Will this definitely happen?
 
When bullies name call you and make you do things against your will without having to physically hurt you, you eventually handle it and get used to it.
When bullies nip you, you learn to accept it and get used to it. When they punch you lightly enough so you don't bruise badly on the body that people can see, you accept it as best you can.
When you become used to that, they kick you in the places the kicks won't be seen..and again you accept it because telling about it makes you a sissy or a grass or people just don;t want to listen.
When you become used to that, you will be thrown in dog dirt, soaked in puddle water, then head ducked into it...all after the aforementioned attacks.
And so on and so on until the misery becomes body and mind breaking.

We're only at the name calling stage.
 
I think people are in for a shock at how quick the restrictions will be lifted mate. The Govt will be desperate to have the economy up and running ahead of the summer

Mixing with one other household indoors needs to be early on the agenda. If case and hospitalisations remain as they are then we'll have to sit tight. If they decline at the rate they are currently we will be back to where we were in June by next month.
 
Tier 2 restrictions from start May I reckon

All open for business mid September
Call me a conspiracy theorist but we will be back under lockdown next winter. They will find more excuses mutant strain,vaccines not working etc. The best it will get this year is tier 2.
 
Mixing with one other household indoors needs to be early on the agenda. If case and hospitalisations remain as they are then we'll have to sit tight. If they decline at the rate they are currently we will be back to where we were in June by next month.

It won't be enough for people.

People will take the piss like loads did at Christmas seeing whoever whenever they wanted.
 
And with no social safety measures on a sliding scale you say. That's a lot bonkers.

What would the sliding scale look like and why?

There will pretty much never come a time where every one is safe. There wasn’t before this pandemic. Elderly people had the flu jab but it wouldn’t protect all of them. They weren’t locked away fearing dying from something that ‘could’ kill them.

If we are forever beware of things that could hurt us we will never live properly again. We’re protecting the most vulnerable.There is evidence the vaccines are working.
 
What would the sliding scale look like and why?

There will pretty much never come a time where every one is safe. There wasn’t before this pandemic. Elderly people had the flu jab but it wouldn’t protect all of them. They weren’t locked away fearing dying from something that ‘could’ kill them.

If we are forever beware of things that could hurt us we will never live properly again. We’re protecting the most vulnerable.There is evidence the vaccines are working.
Under 60’s with no underlying health conditions are around 3 times more likely to die in a road traffic accident than of Covid, maybe we should start moving to a car-free society?
 
People have continued to think of dates earlier than reality. Then each time the time has past they've opted for another earlier than predicted date. March was the big one on here until recently, when it dawned on them that there's no chance.
 
People have continued to think of dates earlier than reality. Then each time the time has past they've opted for another earlier than predicted date. March was the big one on here until recently, when it dawned on them that there's no chance.
By mid February we are halfway then we have roughly 17 million to do ( prob April ) and then do a repeat if I'm not mistaken. May is optimistic but oldie won't move the deadline twice surely.
 
Under 60’s with no underlying health conditions are around 3 times more likely to die in a road traffic accident than of Covid, maybe we should start moving to a car-free society?

That’s not the issue under 60s might not necessarily die from it doesn’t mean that they won’t clog up hospitals whilst doctors and nurses make them better though
 
What would the sliding scale look like and why?

There will pretty much never come a time where every one is safe. There wasn’t before this pandemic. Elderly people had the flu jab but it wouldn’t protect all of them. They weren’t locked away fearing dying from something that ‘could’ kill them.

If we are forever beware of things that could hurt us we will never live properly again. We’re protecting the most vulnerable.There is evidence the vaccines are working.
Put it this way, you'll be lucky if you think we won't be wearing masks approaching circa the fourth quarter 2021 and large scale indoor events a no-no. :)

Screw yourself in for a bit more drudgery I reckon
 
People have continued to think of dates earlier than reality. Then each time the time has past they've opted for another earlier than predicted date. March was the big one on here until recently, when it dawned on them that there's no chance.

I am waiting for the planned Feb 22nd decision on whether to open schools and the relaxation of restrictions.
 
When bullies name call you and make you do things against your will without having to physically hurt you, you eventually handle it and get used to it.
When bullies nip you, you learn to accept it and get used to it. When they punch you lightly enough so you don't bruise badly on the body that people can see, you accept it as best you can.
When you become used to that, they kick you in the places the kicks won't be seen..and again you accept it because telling about it makes you a sissy or a grass or people just don;t want to listen.
When you become used to that, you will be thrown in dog dirt, soaked in puddle water, then head ducked into it...all after the aforementioned attacks.
And so on and so on until the misery becomes body and mind breaking.

We're only at the name calling stage.
Who is the bully in this metaphor? Who is the person being bullied? What is the name calling supposed to be? What’s going to be the equivalent of being thrown in dog dirt? To what end is the bully doing the bullying?
 
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