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Shay Given MOTD


I'm getting major deja vu here as I'm sure there was another footballer who said the exact same thing with this sort of meaning in the last couple of years on TV
 
I'm getting major deja vu here as I'm sure there was another footballer who said the exact same thing with this sort of meaning in the last couple of years on TV
Joey Barton 2021 as manager described one of his defenders as having a bad game, it was "a holocaust"

Perry Groves in 2019 saying a Brighton keeper had a "holocaust of a game"


I reckon this is basically a phrase used within football and they are all too think to understand why it's considered offensive outside their football world bubble
 
This is the problem with ex footballers who learn cliches from other ex footballers. They say them without any real notion of what they mean or can mean. They know it means ‘bad’, but rather than use an extensive vocabulary to describe ‘bad’ performances in other words, they turn to clumsy cliches they’ve heard elsewhere.

Absolutely anyone and everyone can say the wrong thing however and his apology should be good enough (aside from the ‘I didn’t know’ bit).
 
Why should he get grief for that ,.
Yet everyone else (other than us ).
Condone them fkers being owned by them fkers ,
Record numbers of executions this year??
 
I wouldn’t want to get bogged down on the whole etymology of the Greek word “holokauston” again, and he has apologised.

Anyone offended really needs to ask serious questions of themselves imo. And I’m speaking as someone who has Jewish ancestry on both sides of my family.
 
Tony Cascarino used the same word while working for Sky Sports News, about 15 years ago. He never worked for them again despite issuing an immediate apology (As Given also has).

I can understand to some extent those saying he shouldn’t lose his job but if you’re so misinformed that you don’t know what the word ‘Holocaust’ is used to describe with exclusivity, are you really fit to be on BBC tv supposedly informing and educating others? God knows what else he doesn’t know.
 
I’d love to see him just double down and own it.

“Aye lads I’ve done some research into the holocaust and Wilfred Nancy’s reign as Celtic manager is definitely worse than that”
 
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